Apple wins, Judge tells Feds to F*** off.
Apple wins, Judge tells Feds to F*** off.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Apple wins, Judge tells Feds to F*** off.
judge ruled in favor of apple for some drug cases too
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think it's good because by not forcing Apple to do it for them they didn't create a precedent that would allow countries like China and Russia to demand the same.
In all fairness, do you think China and Russia would need a US precedent to justify doing it in their country instead of just doing it?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think it's good because by not forcing Apple to do it for them they didn't create a precedent that would allow countries like China and Russia to demand the same.
I understand this aspect, but I'd also thought people were against it just because the notion of hacking into the phone would lessen security for everyone.
No, what happened here really is that the FBI wanted something and didn't understand the technical aspects. They put on a case that completely appeals to emotion (that people like you bought into), meanwhile 100% of tech experts were against it because of the immense ramifications it has. Now we can speculate whether it was incompetence or malice that led to this, but it is very obvious that once the exact technical argument has come to light, the FBI dug in its heels.
Additionally, manly many people have explained to the FBI that there are exploits into getting into this kind of iPhone, so if it actually had been just about the one phone it seems unlikely they would have done this. This makes it very likely that they wanted a precedent, but luckily ultimately the reasonable side won out, in this case even so far as to convince people like Lindsay Graham who make a living out of being on the wrong side.
It was great from Apple that they stood up for civil liberties like that, and it came with an immense hit in popularity for them in the US, so it is clear they did it for the principle.
What exactly are you saying "no" to? What I said about what Apple is now asking doesn't contradict what you just said.
You also say since it came with an immense rise in popularity it means it is clear they did it for the principle. I don't see how you reach that conclusion. I'm not saying they did or didn't do it for that reason, though they certainly weren't standing up for civil liberties in the past when they helped the FBI.
Originally posted by Surtur
What exactly are you saying "no" to? What I said about what Apple is now asking doesn't contradict what you just said.You also say since it came with an immense rise in popularity it means it is clear they did it for the principle. I don't see how you reach that conclusion. I'm not saying they did or didn't do it for that reason, though they certainly weren't standing up for civil liberties in the past when they helped the FBI.
Oh yeah, I should have quoted, I initially referred to your March 2nd post, but then really went on to make my own point, should have taken the no out, really.
Oh and I said hit, not rise.