Black Lives Matter thread

Started by eThneoLgrRnae159 pages

Apparently two police officers have been shot as a result of riots that happened because of the grand jury's decision not to indict any of the officers.

I understand many people are upset because they think the officers were in the wrong (and they may be right) but the jury has made its decision.

Rioters don't get to shoot officers because they are unhappy with a GJ's decision. Plenty of people were upset with OJ getting off but I didn't see anyone rioting because of it.

People have to respect a GJ's decision whether they like or or not.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Apparently two police officers have been shot as a result of riots that happened because of the grand jury's decision not to indict any of the officers.

I understand many people are upset because they think the officers were in the wrong (and they may be right) but the jury has made its decision.

Rioters don't get to shoot officers because they are unhappy with a GJ's decision. Plenty of people were upset with OJ getting off but I didn't see anyone rioting because of it.

People have to respect a GJ's decision whether they like or or not.

Which is one of the problems with our current media system, it doesn't profit by providing all the facts but to fracture and divide information to feed into groups.

People don't have to respect the GJ's decision the same way they don't have to be held accountable to reacting to lies and bullshit fed by click bait headlines.

Originally posted by snowdragon
DEERRRRRRR ok sparky, go read the report and the dates of the calls, from 1/20 posting forward.

From April 2016 to Present

Ehhh, I think you're wasting your time. No amount of evidence will change people like Robtard's mind. Robtard is a lost cause. He won't go back to normal until Democrats have enough power to be blamed for all the problems then we get the old Robtard back.

Almost no one cares that Breonna Taylor was directly involved in illicit drug trade and that her apartment was a legitimate target for a warrant with an arrest of her. The police just f*cked up the timing and missed the drugs and $20K. But the no-knock raids need to go. And the drug war needs to end. No shots would have been fired if no-knock raids weren't a thing and we decriminalized drugs.

I heard that the police actually did knock very loudly before finally deciding to break down the door because no one was responding to their knocking. According to Tim Pool, the "no-knock raid" reporting is misinformation.

Perhaps he is wrong on this occasion but usually he is spot on.

Shame about this poor girl. Poor police performance. I shouldn't be shocked at justice not being served but here we are.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I heard that the police actually did knock very loudly before finally deciding to break down the door because no one was responding to their knocking. According to Tim Pool, the "no-knock raid" reporting is misinformation.

Perhaps he is wrong on this occasion but usually he is spot on.

The boyfriend admitted to hearing knocking.

Was the Search Warrant for the Drug Raid That Killed Breonna Taylor Illegal?
https://reason.com/2020/06/21/was-the-search-warrant-for-the-drug-raid-that-killed-breonna-taylor-illegal/

Interesting article here from Reason.com and pretty damning indictiment of the circumstances that led up to Breonna Taylor's home invasion and death.

Main takeaways:

-The no-knock warrant that led to Taylor's death was one of five warrants approved by a single judge in the space of "12 minutes".
-Evidence implicating Taylor was "slight" with no probable cause, and packages delivered to her apartment had already been deemed "of no interest" by the local post office on behalf of a different law enforcement agency.
-Police offered nothing more than boilerplate justifications for a no-knock raid.
-The (plainclothed) police claimed to have announced themselves before enterting but Walker + 16 of his neighbours disputed this.

The jury's ruling is what it is but its dissappointing to see these officers get off scott free for what appears to be a cut and dry case of gross negilence and misconduct, leading to yet another preventable death.

Originally posted by Robtard
Defending the police and system that murdered Breonna Taylor, who was 100% innocent, that is a perfect example of the "boot licking" you often accuse others of.

Lol. There was no defense of the police or the system in the post you quoted.

I pointed out what the one cop was being charged with and said to expect riots. I don't know why you feel the need to lie like this.

And there is tons of racism being thrown at the black AG for this even though it was a grand jury that made the call.

Someone on either CNN or MSNBC said he was "skinfolk not kinfolk". Which I guess means that his skin is black but his soul is not?

Originally posted by Surtur
The boyfriend admitted to hearing knocking.

Source?

Cos that would contradict what he previously has said.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
You forgot to mention she was in the arrest warrant

Originally posted by Robtard
Source?

Cos that would contradict what he previously has said.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html

"Ms. Taylor and her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, had been in bed, but got up when they heard a loud banging at the door. Mr. Walker said he and Ms. Taylor both called out, asking who was at the door. Mr. Walker later told the police he feared it was Ms. Taylor’s ex-boyfriend trying to break in."

Originally posted by Surtur
https://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html

[b]"Ms. Taylor and her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, had been in bed, but got up when they heard a loud banging at the door. Mr. Walker said he and Ms. Taylor both called out, asking who was at the door. Mr. Walker later told the police he feared it was Ms. Taylor’s ex-boyfriend trying to break in." [/B]

Bingo

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-audio-police-interviews-sheds-light-police-probe-fatal-shooting-n1233183

In his interview, Mattingly insists officers knocked and announced themselves when they arrived after midnight on March 13. In Walker’s interview with investigators, however, he says there was banging on the door but the couple never heard anyone say “police.” Walker says that after he and Taylor asked who it was and got no response he reached for his licensed firearm

Yes, so they definitely heard the knocking.

So this was never a no knock warrant.

Nor was she killed in her bedroom.

The claim is that it was a no knock warrant but they decided to knock. This is confirmed by the boyfriend.

https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breonna-Taylor-search-warrants.pdf

pg8.

Affiant is requesting a No-Knock entry to the premises due to the nature of how these drug traffickers operate. These drug traffickers have a history of attempting to destroy evidence, have cameras on the location that compromise Detectives once an approach to the dwelling is made, and a have history of fleeing from law enforcement.
The police appeared to knock on the door but failed to announce, so either way they are at fault.

A witness says they heard them announce, so who knows.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I heard that the police actually did knock very loudly before finally deciding to break down the door because no one was responding to their knocking. According to Tim Pool, the "no-knock raid" reporting is misinformation.

Perhaps he is wrong on this occasion but usually he is spot on.

Nobody disputes that fact.

"No-knock raiding" really includes two different types of no-knocking: silent busting in like barbarians. Knocking but no announcing.

The opposite is the, "knock and announce." They knocked but did not announce. They fall under the "no knock" category which is a misnomer. But police group those two together, usually. I've never heard of a "knock only warrant" and I don't find a result for it.

They knocked very loudly which is what caused the Walker to be startled (in Walker's words). They didn't announce who they were but very loudly banged on the door. If Walker was aware of the drug trade that Breonna was involved in, yeah, he has every reason to believe these are gangster coming into the apartment to kill them and/or ransack the place. Walker's reaction is justified.

Originally posted by Quincy
Shame about this poor girl. Poor police performance. I shouldn't be shocked at justice not being served but here we are.

Always count on you to have a good heart. 😍

I'm still not happy she died or when anyone dies who wasn't really doing anything wrong. I still view selling drugs as a victimless crime unless they are tricking kids into addiction (not applicable in this scenario). Let two consenting adults complete business transactions if they want.

Originally posted by Robtard
Source?

Cos that would contradict what he previously has said.

From the beginning, he never said that they did not knock. He said they didn't announce. He always held the position that they knocked/banged on the door very loudly and it scared the shit out of him which is why he busted out the gun.