Black Lives Matter thread

Originally posted by Surtur
Well man I dunno, apparently the cops were screaming and screaming at the guy to stop moving and he just plain wasn't listening. So I don't feel that is on par with jay walking. Pirating movies also surely isn't on par with just not listening to cops despite them repeatedly ordering you to do something.

Now you might wonder why I said "apparently" here, because I was hearing all this being reported on the radio.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Ah yes, there's the double standard I was looking for.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah it's weird how a double standard exists that seems to let cops get away with shit like killing people more than citizens do. What's up with that yo?

Yea it's weird that a double standard exist when cops getting away with murder but apparently little to no attention should be paid to cops being put down. What's up with that yo? 👆

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yea it's weird that a double standard exist when cops getting away with murder but apparently little to no attention should be paid to cops being put down. What's up with that yo? 👆

What do you mean?

Murdered cops receive more attention and honor than regular people who are murdered.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yea it's weird that a double standard exist when cops getting away with murder but apparently little to no attention should be paid to cops being put down. What's up with that yo? 👆

Do you understand the difference? While awful, a police officer being murdered but having his killer arrested and sent to prison for 500,000,000 years is much less news-worthy or worthy of discussion than, say, a cop strangling a man with an illegal choke-hold on camera, killing him, and getting off scott-free.

Both can be tragic, but there's no real controversy in a criminal committing a criminal act and being put through the US's criminal justice system.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What do you mean?

Murdered cops receive more attention and honor than regular people who are murdered.

No they don't. Not even close. Which is why the point is if someone is going to continuously mention racial injustice (Kaepernick), it would behoove them to mention senseless murders of police officers.

Because their killers tend to get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Do you understand the difference? While awful, a police officer being murdered but having his killer arrested and sent to prison for 500,000,000 years is much less news-worthy or worthy of discussion than, say, a cop strangling a man with an illegal choke-hold on camera, killing him, and getting off scott-free.

Both can be tragic, but there's no real controversy in a criminal committing a criminal act and being put through the US's criminal justice system.

Both can be tragic, but there's no real controversy in a criminal committing a criminal act and being put through the US's criminal justice system.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What do you mean?

Murdered cops receive more attention and honor than regular people who are murdered.

All other things being equal, a murdered cop will receive far more attention in the news than some random ****boy.

As I said, cops only get less covered than cops killing people and getting away with it because, well, they got away with it, lol. As long as the perception that that is what's happening is there.

By contrast, when a cop killed some guy who was shooting at him and a body cam made it very clear that the cop handled the situation completely according to protocol no one gave a shit IIRC. I only heard about it here because I think Bardock's fat unsightly ass posted it to demonstrate the value of body cams on cops and how it makes shit like this far more clear.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yea it's weird that a double standard exist when cops getting away with murder but apparently little to no attention should be paid to cops being put down. What's up with that yo? 👆

Have you never seen a funeral for a police officer that died while on duty? The can be pretty massive, streets get closed, notable people sometimes come to speak etc.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You mean aside from it being a capital offense punishable by death?

By contrast, a cop strangling a man with an illegal choke-hold and getting acquitted for it (after being on paid administrative leave lmao) is something a lot of people will be in disagreement about. That's why these stories are relatively more news-worthy. They can actually spur discussion about the story itself.

A cop gets killed by some criminal, what is there to discuss? "What he did was bad and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." "He is." "Oh, well that's good."

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh God, I bet that man hurt her feelings real bad when he didn't respect her God-given and all-powerful authority. Truly he got what he deserved, the piece of shit criminal scumbag.

Nobody said he got what he deserved..but why not just kinda sorta do what a cop tells you to do? Especially when she is pointing a gun at you?

Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, let's discuss the one in Charlotte, cos it's more vague than cops on video shooting an unarmed black man.

According to the police, they went to an apartment complex to issue a warrant to some unnamed man. Keith Lamont Scott (not the focus of the warrant) was sitting in his car which was parked in the apartment complex parking lot and for 'reasons' he got out of his car with a gun, cops ordered him to drop it, he didn't, cops then shot him dead. Edit: Cops were not wearing their body cams for 'reasons'.

Scott's family claims he was at the apartment complex waiting for his son and that he was reading a book.

Yes, like I said the police chief later came out and said no book was found.

So let me guess: he is lying?

Originally posted by NemeBro
There's no controversy in this case though. No one of relevance is going to argue that some criminal killing a cop is a capital offense punishable by death, nor would anyone say that the law does not support him being sentenced to such. The only controversy is in whether or not the justice system should be allowed the power to execute convicts at all, which is completely unrelated to the shooting itself.

By contrast, a cop strangling a man with an illegal choke-hold and getting acquitted for it (after being on paid administrative leave lmao) is something a lot of people will be in disagreement about. That's why these stories are relatively more news-worthy. They can actually spur discussion about the story itself.

A cop gets killed by some criminal, what is there to discuss? "What he did was bad and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." "He is." "Oh, well that's good."

I can't tell if this is meant to be a serious post or not. Especially because at the end you say "what is there to discuss" about when a cop is killed by a criminal. The context of what happened actually does depend on how much discussion is merited. For instance, what if the criminal killed the cop in part due to this poisonous rhetoric spewed about cops by groups like BLM and the like?

I'm not saying that happens all the time, but it's worthy of discussion because if anti-cop rhetoric is playing any part that is an issue that needs to be addressed beyond "prosecute the killer".

I wish that it could be about us all against the world, instead of us and them. After all, when our water supplies begin to die all over the world, due to toxic spills by economic giants, it affects us all. Shouldn't we be fighting together to survive, instead of fighting each other? Whatever right?

We ran into a huge stumbling block when we decided that political correctness became more important than common sense. We all need to consider that we should all just get a grip, and realize where the true problems exist. The only thing that I can say about this particular situation, is that people have become fixated on trivial matters while the effing world falls down around them. Pretty silly right? LOL.

Our situation reminds me of several things that I read in the bible. Weird huh? This topic is petty and stupid. It's just an attitude that everyone has to shed. The reason that this topic is stupid, is because no one wins anything while we are all divided. We all just lose together instead of winning together. We all need to try to care about each other as if the person beside you was a brother or sister. Equality to all (color, sex, gender, belief.). Yes, we should actually help each other whenever possible. With wisdom of course. All we need is love. Just think of all of the amazing things that, that one word breeds.

Originally posted by Surtur
I can't tell if this is meant to be a serious post or not. Especially because at the end you say "what is there to discuss" about when a cop is killed by a criminal. The context of what happened actually does depend on how much discussion is merited. For instance, what if the criminal killed the cop in part due to this poisonous rhetoric spewed about cops by groups like BLM and the like?

I'm not saying that happens all the time, but it's worthy of discussion because if anti-cop rhetoric is playing any part that is an issue that needs to be addressed beyond "prosecute the killer".

If you disagree with the current American media model then I suggest you hit the voting booths 😛

Media outlets can't afford to ignore the stories that generate discussion and interest.

Originally posted by Surtur
I can't tell if this is meant to be a serious post or not. Especially because at the end you say "what is there to discuss" about when a cop is killed by a criminal. The context of what happened actually does depend on how much discussion is merited. For instance, what if the criminal killed the cop in part due to this poisonous rhetoric spewed about cops by groups like BLM and the like?

I'm not saying that happens all the time, but it's worthy of discussion because if anti-cop rhetoric is playing any part that is an issue that needs to be addressed beyond "prosecute the killer".

It is worthy of discussion, but it sure as f.uck doesn't help when people spread propaganda that there isn't MASSIVE corruption and racism among cops and the straight up lie that BLM is some dangerous terrorist organization. It's not. It's a group of people that are F.UCKING PISSED THAT INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED. There are psychos and a.ssholes who exploit this anger to loot and cause trouble, but they're small potatoes. They pose no real danger to anyone in the long run because they get arrested right away. The cops have every single advantage over the protesters.

Originally posted by NemeBro
There's no controversy in this case though. No one of relevance is going to argue that some criminal killing a cop is a capital offense punishable by death, nor would anyone say that the law does not support him being sentenced to such. The only controversy is in whether or not the justice system should be allowed the power to execute convicts at all, which is completely unrelated to the shooting itself.

By contrast, a cop strangling a man with an illegal choke-hold and getting acquitted for it (after being on paid administrative leave lmao) is something a lot of people will be in disagreement about. That's why these stories are relatively more news-worthy. They can actually spur discussion about the story itself.

A cop gets killed by some criminal, what is there to discuss? "What he did was bad and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." "He is." "Oh, well that's good."

I think your response should be "two wrongs don't make a right". When an innocent person dies, you get full day media coverage, followed by riots where police are injured and/or killed which then also have pretty much all day media coverage.

Yea, I've seen police funerals, that's about all the coverage it gets.

There are calls to release the video in Charlotte. My wife's been watching news this morning and apparently someone who saw the video can corroborate the guy had a gun. There's arguments on both sides whether to release the video or not but if the claim is the officer was justified, they had better release the video.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
It is worthy of discussion, but it sure as f.uck doesn't help when people spread propaganda that there isn't MASSIVE corruption and racism among cops and the straight up lie that BLM is some dangerous terrorist organization. It's not.

Except the rhetoric BLM spews is DANGEROUS. "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" are what these pieces of shit spew out of their mouths.

So I hope you realize: there is no "one good side, one bad". Pieces of shit on both sides. One of the leaders got on live tv and said black on black crime wasn't that big of an issue. These people are hateful and spew lies constantly.

It's a group of people that are F.UCKING PISSED THAT INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED. There are psychos and a.ssholes who exploit this anger to loot and cause trouble, but they're small potatoes. They pose no real danger to anyone in the long run because they get arrested right away. The cops have every single advantage over the protesters.

Did you just say the thugs who loot and burn over this bullshit get arrested right away? No, they really don't..not all of them.

Also no: we use the proper words now. Do not call these savages protesters. They are rioting thugs. It's not a protest to loot and burn.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
There are calls to release the video in Charlotte. My wife's been watching news this morning and apparently someone who saw the video can corroborate the guy had a gun. There's arguments on both sides whether to release the video or not but if the claim is the officer was justified, they had better release the video.

The problem is it depends on the laws about investigations. There is no way in hell the investigation is done yet and in some cities they won't really release any evidence until after the investigation is done. As I recall, that is why in Milwaukee the video wasn't just immediately released.

But see people will see this and just go "ohh they aren't releasing it because it shows a gentle black man just reading his book".

This is the narrative we get literally every single time. The dead black guy was a pillar of the community, he loved life, wouldn't hurt nobody, etc. Every single time lol. Man these communities have so many pillars in them I'm shocked at why some are so f*cking horrible and so full of crime, aren't you? The guy in Milwaukee was more or less called a pillar too.

I'm also perplexed at why people are so quick to not believe a cop, but so quick to believe black criminals and/or the families of black criminals. It's not like we have massively more examples of one side being more deceitful than the other, and we sure as hell know they will lie about anything in order to make a cop appear guilty(hands up don't shoot was as real as fairies).

A disturbing amount of time these "dindu nuffins" turn out that..yeah, they DID do something. So again I'm just perplexed at why the black community suddenly became trustworthy when the cops did not. Since both have a history of lying. There has to be a middle ground where we can be skeptical of police without immediately making every dead black man an automatic saint.

I realize cops do want to protect their own, but holy shit if this guy legit was reading a book and the POLICE CHIEF then went on tv to say "no we literally found no book" that is just..that seems like a strange level of insanity. Keeping your mouth shut is one thing, but just going on tv to directly lie is a gamble.

Especially when since he is the police chief he f*cks that entire department over if it turns out he is lying and they just killed some book reading guy. If this guy legit had a book and got shot then of course they would have found it so..for the police chief to still go say they found a gun instead..I don't even see why he'd risk flushing his career down the toilet? I'm not saying it isn't possible this man is covering..but like I said that is a hell of a gamble.

BTW Mayor has said the public will see the video after the family has.

Why do I get the feeling if it doesn't show him with a book..nothing will change? People will still try to demonize cops over this?

Also..who pays for all the damage done during the looting and burning if it turns out the cop was justified? Is there just some way to directly bill the black community? Is BLM going to come hold a fund raiser to raise funds to rebuild and repair?