Black Lives Matter thread

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
applying a false narrative to accuse people of applying false narratives. Nice comedic irony.

A false narrative is easily defined. It is just that – constructing a narrative (a story) that is false to support or explain a given position. It can be partially true or have a ties to plausible arguments but its purpose is to mislead, to convince the target that the argument is true and therefore real.

Right, the discussions about innocent black people being murdered by police, which you insist on deviating from.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Right the discussions about innocent black people being murdered by police, which you insisted on deviating from. More brilliance. Let it flow.

Right, the discussions about innocent black people being murdered by police which in turn results in "revenge" style murder of police officers. So not understanding the discussion AND what a false narrative is. Comedic irony indeed. You should probably quit while behind 👆

k have fun derailing topics on a dead movie forum.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
k have fun derailing topics on a dead movie forum.

You mean the topic that has been discussed for the last 15-20 pages? It's nice of you to stop by to remind us that your time away didn't do much for your reading comprehension.

Originally posted by Surtur
Except the rhetoric BLM spews is DANGEROUS. "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" are what these pieces of shit spew out of their mouths.

So I hope you realize: there is no "one good side, one bad". Pieces of shit on both sides. One of the leaders got on live tv and said black on black crime wasn't that big of an issue. These people are hateful and spew lies constantly.

Did you just say the thugs who loot and burn over this bullshit get arrested right away? No, they really don't..not all of them.

Also no: we use the proper words now. Do not call these savages protesters. They are rioting thugs. It's not a protest to loot and burn.

There's always going to be thugs and degenerates. All you can do is deal with them in the best way the law allows you to do. Cops and other LEO are beholden to the public. They have a responsibility to take care to not mow down innocent civilians. They're being trained to fear that every single person is out to murder them, and they are becoming increasingly isolated from the public. The woman that shot Terence Crutcher for instance, she may be a bit of a hothead and shot him in a blind panic. If that's the case, the academy SHOULD have stamped that out of her before she passed.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody said he got what he deserved..but why not just kinda sorta do what a cop tells you to do? Especially when she is pointing a gun at you?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah, how dare that stupid retard make a mistake when under serious pressure? Like, it's not as if the cop would shoot him without a good reason, so what was there to be nervous about? The dumb savage thug got what was coming to him tbh.

Have to agree here if the guy didn't have any kind of weapon on him.

It appears there is video footage in the police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott where there is a handgun on the ground a few feet from his body.

If thats the case, I guess the Charlotte riots are a woopsies?

Lol yep whoopsy!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/keith-scott%e2%80%99s-family-sees-videos-of-his-killing-and-says-the-public-should-too/ar-BBwwjLY?li=BBnb7Kz

So what the F*CK happened to that book? Why is the family ignoring this now? They talk about how he wasn't aggressive and shit, but WHAT ABOUT THAT BOOK? What about the gun we KNOW was found now? Was it planted?

So he was armed, the police gave him several commands(family attorney admits this) and he didn't follow them because f*ck that shit is for lesser men.

Just read that article. It takes a whole lot to say a whole lot of nothing. Just look at the way the family words things lol. If this was a clear cut "dude had a book, not a gun" they wouldn't be reacting this way.

Was a book found..like at all? Anywhere? Nemebro you know everything about everything: was a book found, bro?

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/no-definitive-visual-evidence-cop-shooting-keith-lamont-154003920--abc-news-topstories.html

Yea if this is true, that's a huge whoopsie.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Have to agree here if the guy didn't have any kind of weapon on him.

But again this is the games nemebro plays. So we can sit here and talk about the poor guy and shame the savage cop and ignore the shit that leads to this, which isn't just cops being shitty: but people being shitty.

Stop resisting lawful commands. People have asked why she shot him, what reason did he give? I can't answer that man. What I also can't answer is what reasons SHE gave to him that made him decide not to obey simple commands. People want to blame it on being nervous? Okay, but then..how far do we go with that in terms of why this happened? Was the cop maybe nervous too? In over her head? Orr just..you know, an up and coming KKK member?

If someone, ANYONE, is holding a gun on me I am doing what they say. Whether it's a cop or a crack head.

But again this is the games nemebro plays. So we can sit here and talk about the poor guy and shame the savage cop and ignore the shit that leads to this, which isn't just cops being shitty: but people being shitty.

Now obviously if it's conclusively proven this guy had a gun, it's a different story.

I believe we're talking about two different cases though.

The case with the gun is with the black cop killing this black guy who it seems yep: family said he had a book, but it was a gun. We don't know if he pointed it, but we know he was armed and we know(even the family lawyer admits) he didn't comply with commands.

But the other incident is the Tusla one where the white cop shot this guy. He was unarmed, this is 100% true. However, he wasn't obeying commands given. He kept for some reason walking to his car, despite the cops screaming at him to STOP moving.

He is now dead. The lady cop who did it? Apparently utterly devastated over it, so not necessarily some killer.

So there is a point about the usage of the gun by the cop. My point about Tusla has always been...why not just do what the cop said? Like I have said: not complying doesn't mean you should just be shot down, but I think it would be remiss of us to act like in these situations the best thing to do is comply. If they are treated unfairly they file a complaint. But if a cop is screaming at you to stop moving and they have a gun on you? Well, is it wrong to say you should probably comply? It doesn't mean I think someone deserves to die in that situation, but this all just would have been avoided if the order was complied with.

We need to find a way to talk about inappropriate behavior among cops while also talking about appropriate ways people should behave around them.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
But he does have a point. An officer can just as well use a taser on a belligerent civilian, instead of going for the gun.

Now obviously if it's conclusively proven this guy had a gun, it's a different story.

Which in the case of OK it looked as though an officer had tazed the man and she shot him right after the tazer lines hit him.

That situation was so strange though, guy walking in the middle of the road with his car blocking both lanes, incoherent.

The most significant impact black lives matter can make is in learning to police their own neighborhoods, where most of the violence occurs not because of police.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yea it's weird that a double standard exist when cops getting away with murder but apparently little to no attention should be paid to cops being put down. What's up with that yo? 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
But again this is the games nemebro plays. So we can sit here and talk about the poor guy and shame the savage cop and ignore the shit that leads to this, which isn't just cops being shitty: but people being shitty.

Bro, you are literally desperate to do anything you can to paint black people who get gunned down by cops in the most negative light possible. 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
I just want to make it clear this wasn't some random innocent person just walking down the street who got gunned down.

What was he not innocent of? Because

Stop resisting lawful commands. People have asked why she shot him, what reason did he give? I can't answer that man. What I also can't answer is what reasons SHE gave to him that made him decide not to obey simple commands. People want to blame it on being nervous? Okay, but then..how far do we go with that in terms of why this happened? Was the cop maybe nervous too? In over her head? Orr just..you know, an up and coming KKK member?

Oh really? She might have been nervous? Aw poor girl, I guess that justifies her gunning down an unarmed man. crylaugh

You're equivalating being so nervous you're not following police orders to being so nervous you're gunning down an unarmed civilian.

If someone, ANYONE, is holding a gun on me I am doing what they say. Whether it's a cop or a crack head.

Who gives a shit? Also, has anyone ever actually pulled a gun out on you before?

I'm not even saying that the cop who shot him did so because she was a rapidly racist KKK member, only pointing out that your pathetic attempt at demonizing him is ridiculous. You will look for any excuse to do so. 😆

Lol "bro" I don't need to be desperate to paint them in a negative light. They do it themselves. Like the family screaming the guy had a book, whoops! He didn't.

Nobody demonized him. I simply pointed out he should have complied with the orders.

Can you explain why it's wrong to say that someone should have merely stopped moving and done what the cops said?

You also jump on the "nervous" shit. You are the one who tried to imply he was SO nervous about cops(because cops just gun you down for no reason) that..that nervousness made him act in a way to make him not comply. Then I point out perhaps the cop was nervous too and..well shit, how f*cking dare I?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/officer-who-shot-terence-crutcher-has-history-of-drug-use-domestic-disturbances_us_57e3f0f8e4b08d73b82fd9ae?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

Drug use and domestic disturbances. If Terence had that I bet he'd be labeled a thug or shitty parent. Philando Castile was derided just for having traffic violations. Surely this cop will receive the same scrutiny....

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe no one supports these cops who die in service ? Do you really think it's painfully lopsided and want to change the argument around to create a false narrative to change what these new news stories seem to highlight.

Why is that any worse than the utterly false narratives presented from the other side? Just curious, do you have any valid explanation for this?