Black Lives Matter thread

Originally posted by The Ellimist
They were far more likely than the general population to support those crazy militants a few months ago.

And frankly, there are plenty of examples of NRA-style protesters openly flashing guns in front of the cops, and said cops coming over to calmly talk to them. If it were a bunch of black youth, they'd have been shot on sight.

But we aren't talking about people openly flashing a gun at a protest. We are talking about people who were armed and being given repeated orders by cops.

So okay you also say they "openly flash" the guns. What does that even mean? They had a gun in their belt and they lift up their shirt to show cops it is there? Or were they actually pulling out their firearms and aiming them at the police?

If you have evidence that any of the cases being discussed in this thread involved the victim pointing his gun at police, I'm all eyes.

I never said that, I'm trying to figure out what you mean by "openly flashing" their guns.

Will you acknowledge that being out at a protest, doing no harm, and flashing your gun is not really the same as having a gun and being repeatedly given commands by the police and failing to comply?

If the police have their guns drawn on you and are screaming commands at you and you decide to flash a gun..I don't think it's going to end well most of the time regardless of your skin color.

The hillbillies that took over the government compound in whatever national park who openly threatened violence. Would that count?

Didn't one of them eventually get killed?

But that just seemed like some straight up corruption to allow that, it didn't seem like they went "yeah well..they are white sooo our hands are tied".

I'm also confused at the point..do you feel white people don't get killed by cops for trying to go for a gun or doing some other stupid shit even though the cop is telling them not to move?

Those stories just don't make the media as much, mostly because people don't burn down their cities over it.

Yes, after a police chase and after he pointed a gun at cops, iirc. This was after the long standoff where they bunkered down and threatened violence with guns if anyone came in after them.

But I think the point was of the NRA supporting militants, when they're white. Which was the case there, cos 'exercising 2nd Amendment freedom.'

Okay but the point was, seemingly, being made as more of a general statement and thus I don't feel that incident proves anything.

LoL, okay.

Are you trying to suggest that one incident shows something in general about the cops?

Thought we were discussing the NRA?

But if it's the police now, in your opinion, if it was a group of armed black men who took over that government compound and threatened violence, do you think the authorities would have just let them sit there like they did?

The original poster brought up an example of an NRA type protest where they flashed guns and the cops were all calm.

As for the cops and if those people were black I don't think they would have let them just sit there. Thing is: if this had happened in a different city I don't think the cops would have let this happen either though. Unless you believe that this literally would have went down the same way no matter what city or state this happened in.

But okay lets take a step beyond that: for arguments sake lets say the cops are more likely to fire upon black men with guns as opposed to whites. Why, in your opinion, is this? Do they just not like blacks? Or do they just not trust blacks as much? If so, why don't they? Is that just pure racism? Do you feel the high rate of crimes committed by blacks in certain cities plays any role in this at all? Or is it just one sided, with it mostly being racism with maybe a sprinkling of sub par training thrown in?

Originally posted by Astner
You don't have these "13% of the population..." statistics in any other predominately white country.

This isn't true.

I agree with your overall sentiment but there is usually one group of people that is overrepresented in the crime statistics.

In Norway we have poles and somalis.

Just found out the guy in Tulsa had just gotten out of jail doing a 9 year stint. Also apparently had 3 active warrants out for his arrest.

Not commenting on whether or not that justifies it because it doesn't, but I'm just giving people more information about the situation(I'm sure some will have an issue with it, but it's already done). Once again look at the narrative we were given as opposed to the reality of the situation.

Originally posted by krisblaze
This isn't true.

I agree with your overall sentiment but there is usually one group of people that is overrepresented in the crime statistics.

In Norway we have poles and somalis.

Remember though, it's not 100% of black people that are murderers. So the percentage is actually a lot lower than 13%, which is scary.

I'm not saying there aren't other situations like this in other countries.

For example you mention poles and somalis in Norway. Is it taboo in Norway to draw attention to these things? Since in America you always run the risk of someone just calling you racist for telling the truth. This is why the narratives we see 99% of the time are about how blacks have been victimized.

Originally posted by Astner
Your country has isolated these people in violent, poorly-maintained and crime-ridden communities, with very limited access education; perpetuating criminal behavior. In fact you've even made a business out of it with your private prisons.

You act like we purposely put them in bad neighborhoods, but that isn't really the case.

Look at my own situation, I live in Chicago. Not one of the surrounding suburbs, but actually in the city(South Side). I have lived in this same neighborhood since 1998.

The neighborhood as it is now..you pretty much wouldn't recognize it if you time traveled from the year 1998 to the present day. It's gotten progressively worse..increases of crime, murder, etc. Except, the city itself didn't change. This part of the city didn't suddenly lose massive amounts of money or any of that shit. What changed was the type of people who occupied the neighborhood.

Seriously, I've seen shitholes like trailer parks that have just as little and yet..nowhere near as much crime. Why? Why is that? No, these people sure as hell do not have access to better public schools than black students.

Originally posted by Surtur
Remember though, it's not 100% of black people that are murderers. So the percentage is actually a lot lower than 13%, which is scary.

I'm not saying there aren't other situations like this in other countries.

For example you mention poles and somalis in Norway. Is it taboo in Norway to draw attention to these things? Since in America you always run the risk of someone just calling you racist for telling the truth. This is why the narratives we see 99% of the time are about how blacks have been victimized.

A police chief published an article where he cited some statistics. His main point was that the police force is not given sufficient funding to deal with all the immigrant violence, because these crimes often require interpreters, and a lot of manpower to solve.

Among the statistics he cited was the number that out of 2400 days served in county jail (or whatever kind of jail it was), 2200 were served by non-norwegians.

Originally posted by krisblaze
A police chief published an article where he cited some statistics. His main point was that the police force is not given sufficient funding to deal with all the immigrant violence, because these crimes often require interpreters, and a lot of manpower to solve.

Among the statistics he cited was the number that out of 2400 days served in county jail (or whatever kind of jail it was), 2200 were served by non-norwegians.

So was he called racist or bigoted because of this?

Liberals don't even know what racist means anymore, they watered down the term so much, and turns out, BLM actually is the largest collection of organized racists in existence. 1000x larger then all the KKK combined.

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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Liberals don't even know what racist means anymore, they watered down the term so much, and turns out, BLM actually is the largest collection of organized racists in existence. 1000x larger then all the KKK combined.

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BLM are organised?

They do a great job of not showing it.

Why do you say that? Look at all the cities they have destroyed. They are organized and funded by Soros and Ford Motor Company.

Originally posted by jaden101
BLM are organised?

They do a great job of not showing it.

It's no surprise, since they do a great job of not showing that black lives matter as well.

Anyways, technically BLM is somewhat organized. There wasn't always an official organization that had leaders and such, but now there is.

Which one of the people in charge went on tv and more or less said that black on black violence isn't as big a problem as some make it out to be.

In other news a 15 yr. old black teen in Chicago was *set on fire and then shot in the back of the head* a few weeks ago. Every couple of weeks I hear about a memorial for some murdered kid. The most disturbing part is there have been multiple occasions where gunfire erupts..at the memorials for people killed by gunfire. This one girl was shot at a funeral over a dice game(again, the funeral was for someone who had been murdered).