Captain America and Winter Soldier vs The Lizard

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Who wins...

Captain America and Winter Soldier vs The Lizard

Cap and Bucky from MCU.

VS

Dr. Connors from Amazing Spiderman.

Cap and Bucky gets their standard weapons and gears.

The fight takes place on the rooftop of Oscorp building.

If Lizard is too much for them, they gets help from Hawkeye and Natasha.

Who wins and why?

Lizard.

Team easily at that point.

Lizard seemed fairly unstoppable against Spider-Man and his friendly neighbourhood SWAT teams. I'm not sure anyone here has the ability to put him down, even for a KO.... with the possible exception of Hawkeye

Well WS did have some pretty strong weaponry...

Lizard should win. Lizard was outmuscling Spiderman, and doing a good job matching him for speed, and his claws were going through metal & concrete like butter. A single hit to even Cap or Bucky, with that combination of strength/sharp claws, is going to cause them a world of trouble.

Don't see how much help Widow is going to be, but some of Hawkeye's trick arrows could cause Lizard some issues. Not only did he have extremely powerful explosive arrows, during the New York battle he also showed that he has arrows that eject some kind of acid that can rapidly eat through/break down even metal substances, as seen when he shoots the one Chitauri in the arm and it basically melts off.

Lizard should win fairly easily, Spiderman even with his insane level of spidersense which in the second movie was more or less shown as a timestop, was unable to avoid the Lizard. Lizard is going to rip CA and WS apart, and I have a hard time seeing what Hawkeye and BW can contribute based on the insane healing factor the Lizard had aswell.

Hawkeyes arrows are only chance this team has. He is way faster and stronger.plus Healing factor. One swipe from any appendage should break whatever bones it contacts with, even on Cap and Bucky. Basically I see one of two ways going down.

1. The team keeps range from Lizard in pairs of cap and widow and bucky with hawkeye or Bucky and Cap double teaming him in a defensive mmanner while possible.Widow does Widow stuff. Waiting for oppurtunities and weaknesses etc. Playing assist and Hawkeye hits him with a freeze arrow (does mcu have those? Dont recall honestly. Or any kind of hax arrow.

2. They stay close together, and press their attack. They get massacred. Pretty badly.

Based off trailers though and cap holding a helicopter and Bucky doing actual damage to Iron Man

I don't recall Hawkeye ever having a freeze arrow. He had regular arrows, explosives, grappling line arrows, that weird melting one and the USB one, off the top of my head. He might also have had arrows with trackers on them, but don't see how much good those would do. Honestly, the only shot the team has is coming up with some kind of plan to utilize whatever explosives they have to take out Lizard. And if that fails, they all get torn apart.

The only thing that stopped the Lizard was the cannister.

Team Cap wins.

Got any proof there Quan?

I'm going with Lizard myself, easily stronger than Cap or WS. Show me Cap saving civilians from a truck and bus by stopping both with sheer strength. Or how about catching a squad car in mid air?? Spider-man did these things, and he struggled against the Lizard, who survived a whole swat team firing on him. He even beat spider-man, the only reason spidey survived was cuz Capt. Stacy saved him.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Got any proof there Quan?

I'm going with Lizard myself, easily stronger than Cap or WS. Show me Cap saving civilians from a truck and bus by stopping both with sheer strength. Or how about catching a squad car in mid air?? Spider-man did these things, and he struggled against the Lizard, who survived a whole swat team firing on him. He even beat spider-man, the only reason spidey survived was cuz Capt. Stacy saved him.

First off you need to need understand a very simple concept. Quit putting words in my mouth. I never said Cap was physically stronger I said the team wins here. That means they are formidable enough with a weapon that can stop Thor's weapon which is far greater than Lizard. Do you disagree ?

Cap is extremely skilled and has an extremely skilled and powerful partner. They have the strength and the skill to get the job done here.

Did I say you said they were stronger?? I missed that part

They're skilled sure but not skilled enough to take down Lizard, plus it's standard weapons and gear so no Thor stopping weapons

Originally posted by steverules_2
They're skilled sure but not skilled enough to take down Lizard, plus it's standard weapons and gear so no Thor stopping weapons

Actually, he is probably referring to Cap's shield blocking a strike from Mjolnir. But we already know Cap has a very durable shield. So I fail to see much of a point, considering I don't think that anyone here would ever suggest that Lizard could damage Cap's shield. But Lizard has a huge size and reach advantage, ridiculous regen, is arguably faster, and has insanely sharp claws, so Lizard still has more than enough in his arsenal to put a serious hurting on Cap himself.

I see what Quans getting at and its possible. If the three distracted connors enough, Cap is strong and fast enough to decap him with that shield. But with lizards size, strength and reach advantage he could snatch that shield from cap like a baby.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Did I say you said they were stronger?? I missed that part

They're skilled sure but not skilled enough to take down Lizard, plus it's standard weapons and gear so no Thor stopping weapons

Cap has his shield.

😂

Team wins. Lizard is out matched here.

TIL: Since Cap's shield can block Mjolnir, Cap can beat anyone less powerful than Mjolnir

(This derp-style of debating ruins threads as well)

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Since Cap's shield can block Mjolnir, Cap can beat anyone less powerful than Mjolnir

(This derp-style of debating ruins threads as well)

I didn't say that I said it can definitely deal with lizard like strength if it can deal with greater forces. Cap is highly skilled. If you feel Lizard wins because he's too strong and Cap can't use his shield to deal with it then say it, cuck.

If the team works in sync and doesn't make any mistakes, they might have a chance. Cap should be strong enough to decap Lizard and WS/Hawkeye weapons are strong enough to hurt Lizard.

That said, it can easily go very bad for them. I'd say Lizard wins 7/10.

Pretty much, they'd have to incapacitate the Lizard early in or team members start getting shredded and then their chances drop with each loss