Captain America and Winter Soldier vs The Lizard

Started by Arachnid15 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you an idiot ? I said he fought someone much faster than the lizard in Quicksilver.

So there's proof he can take on much more powerful opponents and survive due to his skill. Ultron is more durable than Lizard.

Then prove it. So you believe his arm can't hurt him at all ?

Based on what ? If quicksilver didn't ko Cap in seconds how can Lizard ko or kill this team in moments.

If you want people to understand your posts, work on your wording. You're acting like a douche by calling me an idiot, and I could easily point out all the grammar mistakes throughout that post, but thats not how I debate.

Yes, Ultron is more durable than the Lizard. That doesn't mean much though since Cap never hurt him. How is that an argument that Cap can hurt the Lizard?

The burden of proof is on you right now. Obviously, everyone else agrees with me. You have to prove Cap or Bucky are strong enough to overpower or hurt the Lizard, or even fast enough to keep up with him when someone like Spidey, who would also stomp the hell out of them, couldn't do it.

Btw, Lizard>>>>Quicksilver in every stat outside of speed. One good swipe of his claws would kill Cap or WS, and he's more than fast enough to connect.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
If you want people to understand your posts, work on your wording. You're acting like a douche by calling me an idiot, and I could easily point out all the grammar mistakes throughout that post, but thats not how I debate.

Yes, Ultron is more durable than the Lizard. That doesn't mean much though since Cap never hurt him. How is that an argument that Cap can hurt the Lizard?

The burden of proof is on you right now. You have to prove Cap or Bucky are strong enough to overpower or hurt the Lizard, or even fast enough to keep up with him when someone like Spidey, who would also stomp the hell out of them, couldn't do it.

Btw, Lizard>>>>Quicksilver in every stat outside of speed. One good swipe of his claws would kill Cap or WS, and he's more than fast enough to connect.

It was rather obvious what point I was making. Cap obviously effected a more durable opponent just not enough to significantly harm him. Lizard is fleshy and less durable so why can't he hurt him ?

They don't have to overpower him. They use their skill and weaponry to defeat Lizard. Spiderman doesn't have a shield or a metal arm.

Based on him killing who ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?
AS 1, The first avenger, WS and The Avengers movies. 👆

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
AS 1, The first avenger, WS and The Avengers movies. 👆
So then you agree team wins if you watched all those films.

TIL: Being able to harm an opponent means a win on that merit alone, never mind that said opponent has an extremely fast/powerful healing factor

Originally posted by quanchi112
So then you agree team wins if you watched all those films.
No, because I understood them.

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Being able to harm an opponent means a win on that merit alone, never mind that they have an extremely good healing factor
I believe they have the strength to life from Lizard using teamwork. You disagree. I'm fine with you hating on Cap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was rather obvious what point I was making. Cap obviously effected a more durable opponent just not enough to significantly harm him. Lizard is fleshy and less durable so why can't he hurt him ?

They don't have to overpower him. They use their skill and weaponry to defeat Lizard. Spiderman doesn't have a shield or a metal arm.

Based on him killing who ?

All their skill and weapons means nothing when the stat jump is so huge. Spidey was dodging and tanking lightning blasts from Electro, bombs from the Goblin, and dodging between the bullets of a minigun. Despite this, he couldn't successfully evade the Lizard, and barely escaped with his life due to some plot development. This makes me assume that Doc Connors was the biggest threat he faced as far as villains go, since not one of them were able to stomp Spidey they way the Lizard did.

The shield is useless once the Lizard takes it away or catches it, which he would be able to do without much effort. And if Spidey's hits weren't hurting the Lizard, I doubt WS metal arm could. Bucky's arm barely drew blood from Cap after getting multiple free hits on his face, nevermind people like Spidey or the Lizard. Its not that impressive. I bet the Lizard could tear or cut the arm right out of the socket if he wanted to.

Based on him cutting through metal and concrete with ease. If you think he can't, that would suggest you believe both Cap and Bucky are as durable as metal or concrete. Is that what you are arguing?

TIL: Spider-Man just didn't have enough strength, but Cap and WS do

Originally posted by Arachnid1
All their skill and weapons means nothing when the stat jump is so huge. Spidey was dodging and tanking lightning blasts from Electro, bombs from the Goblin, and dodging between the bullets of a minigun. Despite this, he couldn't successfully evade the Lizard, and barely escaped with his life due to some plot development. This makes me assume that Doc Connors was the biggest threat he faced as far as villains go, since not one of them were able to stomp Spidey they way the Lizard did.

The shield is useless once the Lizard takes it away or catches it, which he would be able to do without much effort. And if Spidey's hits weren't hurting the Lizard, I doubt WS metal arm could. Bucky's arm barely drew blood from Cap after getting multiple free hits on his face, nevermind people like Spidey or the Lizard. Its not that impressive. I bet the Lizard could tear or cut the arm right out of the socket if he wanted to.

Based on him cutting through metal and concrete with ease. If you think he can't, that would suggest you believe both Cap and Bucky are as durable as metal or concrete. Is that what you are arguing?

I do not think its huge considering Cap took on Ultron, Loki, and easily blocked a Thor mjolnir strike. Lizard doesn't have to worry about just Cap though. Cap also could survive a giant free fall and is very durable as well.

I don't believe Lizard connects with his full strength on either.

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Spider-Man just didn't have enough strength, but Cap and WS do
I believe it comes down to how these two take into Lizard and the shield. Decap.

Once again, I was one of the first to give Lizard the win and still do but Im starting to wonder if yall are just arguing with quanmcause yall are bored or what but he is right, this team can take some wins. They have the tools, speed, strength, and skills necessary to kill him at least one time. Everyone acts like its a stomp, if they were in close quarters yeah but with all of hawkeyes gear they can slow him down enough to get a good shot in.

You think they are the bored when Quan keep trying to keep a thread when everybody but knows who wins.

Originally posted by golem370
You think they are the bored when Quan keep trying to keep a thread when everybody but knows who wins.
Read the post up from yours, mamas boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Read the post up from yours, mamas boy.
Leave my boy alone!

Quan is beating a losing horse and doesn't know it.

Originally posted by golem370
Quan is beating a losing horse and doesn't know it.
Have a shred of pride and actually debate.

The debate is over noob all of your bs and it is a 85% win for Lizard you lose because you are a loser like Cap is a loser in this thread.

Originally posted by golem370
The debate is over noob all of your bs and it is a 85% win for Lizard you lose because you are a loser like Cap is a loser in this thread.
You sound like you're five with downs when you get angry. Please get angrier. Team wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Have a shred of pride and actually debate.

Have any pride and accept the consensus