Gem of a thread.
The United States of America, bastion of democracy..champion of fair play built its empire on the exploitation of two races. Systematically butchering one and enslaving another. All the while proclaiming to the world "that all men are created equal". But please do enlighten us on trivialities of "who else did it". It just enhances the frailty of the American mythos ego.
I require no alabaster coats of sugar in my history lessons please and thank you.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gem of a thread.The United States of America, bastion of democracy..champion of fair play built its empire on the exploitation of two races. Systematically butchering one and enslaving another. All the while proclaiming to the world "that all men are created equal". But please do enlighten us on trivialities of "who else did it". It just enhances the frailty of the American mythos ego.
I require no alabaster coats of sugar in my history lessons please and thank you.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gem of a thread.The United States of America, bastion of democracy..champion of fair play built its empire on the exploitation of two races. Systematically butchering one and enslaving another. All the while proclaiming to the world "that all men are created equal". But please do enlighten us on trivialities of "who else did it". It just enhances the frailty of the American mythos ego.
I require no alabaster coats of sugar in my history lessons please and thank you.
If you watch the video I linked on the previous page it disproves this myth that we "built our empire" on slavery.
Or if you don't want to watch it, the jist of it is that the wealth created by slavery was gone by the time the civil war was over.
Also when it comes to native americans it comes down to..well, we were better at murder. We were better at doing all the shit they had already been doing just fine without us.
I do love your quote about alabaster and sugar and stuff, you almost channeled a SJW on a modern college campus with that, it was awesome. I can just imagine the line being delivered with a smug sense of superiority.
Originally posted by Surtur
If you watch the video I linked on the previous page it disproves this myth that we "built our empire" on slavery.Or if you don't want to watch it, the jist of it is that the wealth created by slavery was gone by the time the civil war was over.
Also when it comes to native americans it comes down to..well, we were better at murder. We were better at doing all the shit they had already been doing just fine without us.
I do love your quote about alabaster and sugar and stuff, you almost channeled a SJW on a modern college campus with that, it was awesome. I can just imagine the line being delivered with a smug sense of superiority.
Ahh so you're one of THOSE. So youd like me to believe a fledgling nation without forced labor at a time where the American south had the best AND cheapest stuff in the world did NOT benefit is laughable. What's even more laughable is the notion that an argument like that even ne used. Its antihistorical bullshit akin to holocaust denial.
Without slavery there would be no modern day nations of the earth. Everyone has stood on the shoulders of someone else. Without the trampling of the native indigenous people we wouldnt have all this beautiful land the federal government makes us pay taxes on every year.
Instead of being a coward, pussy, little bitkh etc...and pointing the finger and saying " look he did it first or we werent the only ones". Americans need to man the phuck up and accept it and move past it.
Sjw signing off
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Ahh so you're one of THOSE. So youd like me to believe a fledgling nation without forced labor at a time where the American south had the best AND cheapest stuff in the world did NOT benefit is laughable. What's even more laughable is the notion that an argument like that even ne used. Its antihistorical bullshit akin to holocaust denial.
But you see nobody said we never benefited from slaves. What was said was that the nation wasn't built on slavery. Slavery was not the main thing.
For you to compare that to holocaust denial is..well, all kinds of special.
Without slavery there would be no modern day nations of the earth. Everyone has stood on the shoulders of someone else. Without the trampling of the native indigenous people we wouldnt have all this beautiful land the federal government makes us pay taxes on every year.
Yes lots of people have had slaves in the past, we aren't in disagreement here.
Instead of being a coward, pussy, little bitkh etc...and pointing the finger and saying " look he did it first or we werent the only ones". Americans need to man the phuck up and accept it and move past it.Sjw signing off
Who is pointing the finger? This is moving past it: we didn't do anything that wasn't being done already. So people need to get over it.
You've missed the point. Moving past it is acceptance. The whole point of this thread is to alleviate the white man's burden by pointing out that black men did it too. All Im saying is stop doing that. Own that shit. My great granddaddy was a slave master. Period. No apologies it is what it is. Where you piss people off is when you try to rationalize it and when you try and make it a lesser evil.
But chances are slim your great grand daddy actually owned slaves lol. That is another myth. Only 6% of people in the South owned slaves. If you factor in the population of the entire country, 1.5% of people owned slaves.
You also keep saying this is to alleviate things, but pointing out the context of history doesn't equate to that. It's not alleviating a burden to point out others did it too, it's just giving some perspective on the entire affair.
Basically, everyone has blood on their hands, that is the point. That is what people need to accept and don't want to accept.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
You've missed the point. Moving past it is acceptance. The whole point of this thread is to alleviate the white man's burden by pointing out that black men did it too. All Im saying is stop doing that. Own that shit. My great granddaddy was a slave master. Period. No apologies it is what it is. Where you piss people off is when you try to rationalize it and when you try and make it a lesser evil.
Disagreed
I want to own this shit though. I am going to OWN the fact 1.5% of the entire country at the time owned slaved.
I am going to own the fact statistically speaking I am almost guaranteed to of not come from slave owners, just like a majority of other whites in this country.
I love owning shit. Probably the same way the evil whites loved free labor when they got it.