Rahm Kota vs. Count Dooku (TK Battle)

Started by cs_zoltan3 pages

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kenobi's prime was RotS, as far as we know, so you really can't make that conclusion either.

I'm starting to doubt that with the new Canon Vader feats, anyway even if RotS is his prime, it's because he went into exile on Tatooine doing practically nothing. While Kota was fighting the Empire for 16 years.
Not being shit isn't really enough to make the leap to Dooku-tier.

Indeed, but you don't know how good (or bad) Kota was during the CW.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well one is the effort it took.

Two: really Kota just tore of the beam that connected it really, then it just fell. Dooku actually lifted those obalisk and kept them in the air.

Third: Like Fresh said its really hard to imagine any person during the Clone Wars era being able to compete let alone beat Dooku, who isn't Windu, Yoda, or Anakin as of Invisble Hand, and Sidious in any sort of contest.

But it states that Rahm simply raises his hand and laughs off Galen's attack.

"He raised his left hand and with the power of the dark side unleashed a bolt of Sith lightning at the renegade Jedi. Kota only laughed. Raising his left hand in a move that was a mirror image of the apprentice's own, he sent the lightning arcing back to its source." - The Force Unleashed.

Minutes before this Galen kills 4 stormtroopers with his lightning.

It should be noted that stormtrooper armor is insulated against electricity.

It's also noted in one of the various sourcebooks that it's incredibly difficult for even the greatest of Jedi Masters to defend against Force Lightning. I'll attempt to find it.

He also manages to deflect Galen's TK.

"The Jedi general ducked and swept his green lightsaber up and down in a lazy attempt to catch him as he went by. That was a move the apprentice had long ago learned to avoid by tucking his head down closer to his center of gravity and rolling in midair, then kicking himself back at his opponent off the nearest wall. This time he pushed telekinetically as he came, attempting to knock Kota’s feet out from under him before bringing his blade to bear. Again, however, Kota deflected his Force energies back at him." - The Force Unleashed.

Galen's TK by this point was capable of scattering a dozen rebel soldiers along with burying another contingent of insurgents under a mountain of metal equipment.

"A dozen open-helmeted men and women in brown combat uniforms—Kota’s insurgents, the apprentice presumed—came down the hangar’s primary access corridor, sealing the blast door behind them. Baring his teeth, he ran to meet them, eager to take the offensive. Their rifles were no match for the power of the Force. A single, powerful push scattered them like dolls." - The Force Unleashed.

"He felt no need to hold back. Those disloyal to the Empire deserved everything they got. Only when the last was buried under a small mountain of titanium alloy hull plates and reactor shielding did he examine in more detail the equipment they had been carrying." - The Force Unleashed.

Galen's defensive TK is also no joke as he managed to shield himself from the brunt of a railgun explosion that destroyed a TIE.

"A prickling in the back of his neck warned him of a new threat just as a railgun charge exploded to his right, sending bits of TIE fighter in all directions. He deflected the main force of the explosion, but was still stung by tiny pieces of shrapnel down the back of his right hand." - The Force Unleashed.

Do you know how thick, heavy or strong said beam was though or that it was even attached by a beam rather then apart of the station itself?

I understand and to some extent even agree but Rahm rivaling Dooku in force power 16 years after the Clone Wars where he already had a reputation as a fearsome general doesn't seem all that crazy to me.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Marek, not wanting to be an idiot, doesn't go all out in the beginning of a fight.

And like I just said, that went away in seconds. It's not even Force exhaustion. That's not a thing. It's just being tired, which passes pretty quickly when you have magic powers. He lost to Anakin because Anakin was far more powerful than he was. Vader lost to Marek because Marek was more powerful than he was then. It's really that simple.

Because these characters can actually fight back and have TK showings of their own, for starters. But then you're entire argument hinges TFU being comprable to the movies, which is dumb, and Starkiller having bamf shields at this point, which is even dumber when we have Starkiller being TK'd by randoms long after this confrontation. Unless you think they're well above Dooku, and in that case you can just stop posting.

If that had actually happened, everyone would have died. Which is something he states he was trying to do. Too bad it didn't happen. Where as in TOR we have Jedi casually throwing down buildings. Guess they must be Dooku level as well.

Why not? If he thought he could end it then and there why wouldn't he do so? Especially since you seem to be claiming that's exactly what he did later in their fight.

You believe that a force user can't grow exhausted? Sure they're more powerful which means they have more force reserves and thus can outlast their opponents in a fight. Dooku, Vader and Rahm were contending just fine before having their defenses and force reserves worn down at which point they were then defeated. I'm not disagreeing with you all the characters you mentioned hold more power then their opponents it's just that this doesn't mean they can beat them instantly.

Unfortunately for you I do hold the view that some of the opponents Galen faced were superior force users to Dooku and I will not stop posting. Despite Dooku's reputation I do not see him as the be all end all of Star Wars. Just to note though breaking through Galen's defenses does not make you superior or even equal to him as a force user.

Also if a character collapsed buildings then yes they'd be around or slightly below Dooku's level.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Also if a character collapsed buildings then yes they'd be around or slightly below Dooku's level.

Lmfao. You've already failed Gideon.

So no combat showings and random fodder is comparable to Dooku? I'm wondering if I should even waste my time responding.

*Shrug* Up to you.

Hey, it's fine by me if he believes half dead Hope Malgus choked out a Dooku level force user!

/gets solo'd by the Smuggler

Ah, found it.

The picture of Dooku firing off lightning is kind of fitting I must say.