If we're talking strictly Z and not including anything from Super or the movies, I actually could see the humans at the very least making it up to his Final Form.
Tien proved himself in the Cell saga by being able to hold off Imperfect Cell with the Tri Beam(albeit not really injure him), that weapon allows him to hit above his weight class, and we know how much he trains so by EOS I imagine him being pretty potent here.
Krillin has been stated to be the strongest human so that alone seals how useful he is here, and his Destructo Disc would definitely be useful, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Frieza lopped in half once more with this EOS guy on the team.
Yamcha.......well.....if you allow me to use filler feats from the anime I can make a case for Yamcha, if not uh.....I mean...he trained for the Android Saga and got stronger and uh...his Wolf Fang Fist is pretty sick...and he was a desert bandit once...so..
It has been stated multiple times that Krillin is the most powerful human/earthling:
*This fact was also confirmed as recently as BoG.
That said, Krillin>Tien>Yamcha. This is important because during the Namek saga, Krillin's highest canon PL was 75,000.
So for Krillin's PL to match base form Freeza, it would've had to increase by ~7x by the end of the saga. To match 2nd form Freeza, his PL would've had to increase by ~15x. To match 3rd form Freeza, his PL would've had to increase by ~30x. To match 4th form Freeza(100%), his PL would've had to increase by ~1,600x.
Krillin isn't a Saiyan; he's human--humans obviously do not receive zenkais and whatnot. Thus, power increases of that magnitude are, frankly, insurmountable. That said, if(that's a big 'IF'😉 Krillin became > 2nd form Freeza by the end of Z, his PL almost certainly never approached the likes of 3rd form Freeza-- 4th form Freeza is completely out of the question. This is important because in DBZ, the number of fighters is inconsequential if they are significantly weaker than their opponent. So if Tien and Yamcha are weaker than Krillin(which they are), then they don't add much at all to this battle.
But as mentioned above: the Tri-Beam and Destructo Disk are the only abilities that *might* be haxx enough to aid the humans. However, Freeza already knows what the Destructo Disks are capable of, so I can only assume he'd just casually dodge them, and/or blast them away.
The Tri-Beam, on the other hand, is questionable for a few reasons:
Yes, it pushed Semi-Perfect Cell down against his will a few times. However, it caused Cell absolutely NO physical damage whatsoever. It being successful also assumes that Freeza will just stand in one place while Tien takes a considerable amount of time to charge/fire it... Which seems unlikely in a forum battle. This also assumes the Tri-Beam can beat Freeza's durability even IF it magically ends up striking him... Which seems equally as unlikely to me.
Remember, Freeza is BY FAR the most durable character in the mythos. He survived a planet-busting explosion at ground zero while he was powerless AND chopped in half, ffs. Aside from that, each individual 'chunk' of him was still alive after Trunks' slash-attack(as shown in RoF.) Point being: the Tri-Beam pushing Cell down a few times is not indicative of it being able to significantly/fatally harm Freeza's higher forms, imo. Some here might disagree, but I'd welcome definitive proof to the contrary.
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tl;dr: I believe the team can beat Freeza's base and 2nd form(albeit narrowly.) They might(again, that's a big 'MIGHT'😉 also be able to defeat 3rd form Freeza IF the stars inextricably aligned, and all of their haxxed attacks were successfully delivered... But that is one hell of a longshot as far as I'm concerned. On average, I believe 3rd form Freeza would stomp them.
And as I said above: 4th form Freeza is so far beyond the humans that it's really not even fair to allow him to use that transformation here, imo.
Good points, and I agree their pl is nowhere near his higher forms.
But one huge advantage they have over Freeza, is his inability to sense ki. That's akin to being in a game where everyone else is using a wall hack but you. 😉
I'm thinking the tactic Piccolo and Krillin tried to execute on Nappa might serve, as it WOULD have worked if not for Gohan. Say, an ambush Kikoho or solar flare, into the Destructor Disk.
Of course, cutting him in half probably won't do it... He might be able to fight as half a body. But take off his head....
Krillin has decent aim with the thing, all he needs is a distraction.
Yes, Oob was/is technically human. However, he was also Pure Boo reincarnated, thus was born with a potential that vastly exceeded what any 'normal' human could ever dream of. So I think it's very unfair to compare him to the regular ol' humans in DBZ, but that's just me. /shrug
Krillin is the strongest human who doesn't have an asterisk next to his name. 😛
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilThe ability to see an opponent's movements doesn't mean much in the way of their own power/speed, though. During the Namek saga, for instance, Vegeta was able to see Goku's movements(after his 100G training), but his power/speed were still vastly inferior. There are other examples, but I'm sure you get my point.
By the end of the series so are the human's. They had no problem keeping up with the cell fights and tien even blocked a buu blast.
The humans might be able to see 3rd or 4th form Freeza's movements, but there's no way they'd react fast enough to counter them. Perception and reaction are two completely different things.
Originally posted by DamborgsonEven if we assume Tien could successfully deliver a Kikoho w/o Freeza dodging it(which is unlikely), I'm still not convinced it would kill him. Like I mentioned earlier: the ability to push Semi-Perfect Cell down(but cause him no physical harm at all) isn't necessarily indicative of the Kikoho killing a being with Freeza's durability, imo... I'm talking primarily about 4th form Freeza, remember. /shrug
If Tien lands a Kikoho, he'd do some nasty damage. He'd kill Frieza with a barrage like he did against Cell.
He could dodge it sure, but considering the amount of attacks he ate before just because he knew they couldn't hurt him, I wouldn't be surprised if he just grinned at it then realized it's much more powerful then he first thought.
It didn't damage cell no, but it did scuff him. And the force it would take to slam 2nd form cell would do a number on Freeza.
Now, if Freeza's sole intention is to kill them, KI beams through the chest for all.
People voting for the team seem to be basing their argument around Frieza not trying to kill them right away. In a forum fight, Frieza has no reason not to go for the kill from jump.
Frieza fighting seriously in his first form would kill everyone here nigh instantly with Death Beams. Game over man. Game over
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilIf you're assuming the humans aren't fighting like idiots, then you must assume the same for Freeza.
Plus if the humans aren't idiots, krillen could just toss a bunch of discs down tien's hole after they get frieza in there
That said, they really shouldn't stand a chance against Freeza's higher forms.