Nite Owl Vs Black Widow

Originally posted by Arachnid1
And the aliens she killed were able to take hits from Cap and keep fighting in several instances. They were also able to drop from many stories up with enough force to crack concrete with no damage, suggesting greater body density. She'll be able to hurt Nite Owl just fine. Plus, a gun is part of her standard equipment. You were trying to argue long range weaponry earlier. She pulls out a gun and shoots him. lol Either way, Widow wins.

😂 stop it.

Nite Owl is faster than her, so if it came down to who shoots faster, he wins. Also, He can survive a bullet, she can't survive a laser.

Originally posted by Inhuman
TBH I wish Black Widow would huracarana me while I had my mouth open

Originally posted by marwash22
so you'r making the argument that Black Widow has superstrength now?

😂 stop it.

Nite Owl is faster than her, so if it came down to who shoots faster, he wins. He can survive a bullet, she can't survive a laser.

Once again, a laser isn't his standard equipment. When has he used it in a fight before Ozy? And how is he faster than her? She's more agile and more skilled. He's stronger and more durable. Not durable enough to survive a bullet in the mouth from an elite SHIELD soldier who's trained very well with one.

you're making statements about the durability of the aliens she fought (and hurt) and using that as reasoning for why she's strong enough to hurt Nite Owl... so you're either saying Widow is super strong, or you're ignoring the blatant plothole in the 'Avengers' that allowed Widow to be able to incomprehensibly hurt aliens that, as you mentioned, got back up when they were hit by Captain America.

do you see how that makes no sense?

ugh. doing goddamn hurricanranas doesn't mean she's faster. Agility and speed are not the same thing.

man, c'mon. So Nite Owl is just gonna stand still and let her aim at the 2 inch space that's not armored? No. That's not how this works. Widow isn't Bullseye or deadshot, she isn't capable of hitting a moving target of that size while also dodging laser fire. get out of here. You're being silly.

Nite Owl pulled the laser out from his utility belt... you have absolutely no proof that it's not always in the belt. The argument that he doesn't always have it because he only needed to use it once, is profoundly dumb.

lol @ "I can't counter that argument, so I'm gonna remove it as a viable option".

You "win" this; because I'm not willing to keep going over the same points that you're failing to counter.

congrats, you Quan'd your way to victory.

Originally posted by marwash22
you're making statements about the durability of the aliens she fought (and hurt) and using that as reasoning for why she's strong enough to hurt Nite Owl... so you're either saying Widow is super strong, or you're ignoring the blatant plothole in the 'Avengers' that allowed Widow to be able to incomprehensibly hurt aliens that, as you mentioned, got back up when they were hit by Captain America.

do you see how that makes no sense?

ugh. doing goddamn hurricanranas doesn't mean she's faster. Agility and speed are not the same thing.

man, c'mon. So Nite Owl is just gonna stand still and let her aim at the 2 inch space that's not armored? No. That's not how this works. Widow isn't Bullseye or deadshot, she isn't capable of hitting a moving target of that size while also dodging laser fire. get out of here. You're being silly.

Nite Owl pulled the laser out from his utility belt... you have absolutely no proof that it's not always in the belt. The argument that he doesn't always have it because he only needed to use it once, is profoundly dumb.

lol @ "I can't counter that argument, so I'm gonna remove it as a viable option".

You "win" this; because I'm not willing to keep going over the same points that you're failing to counter.

congrats, you Quan'd your way to victory.

So you're claiming its a plot hole that she was able to hurt the aliens because she hasn't shown it on other occasions? I'll claim it's a plot hole that Nite Owl was able to survive Ozy's hits since he never took that kind of damage. Both are BS arguments, and both are wrong.

One again, you have no understanding of how standard gear works. It's on you to prove it was always there despite the fact that he never used it. You cant, therefore its not his standard gear. A gun is Widows standard since she has been shown to carry one on multiple occasions just like any other SHIELD soldier, and she will be able to shoot him just fine. Everything she shoots at is a moving target. Worst comes to worst, she can "hurricanrana" him into submission and shoot him in the face. You can get as mad about that as you like.

I didn't "quan" anything. Quan continues for dozens of pages over nothing. We've barely gone back and forth a few times. You say he can laser her, I say why he cant. You say she cant hurt him, I say why she can. You say he's faster, but you haven't in any way proved this. Your points have been countered or wrong. It's not my intention to get you to give up. I'm trying to make you see why you're wrong. Nite Owl just hasn't been shown to take out anyone of note, unlike Widow no matter how much you try to downplay her showings.

Reminds me of that thread a while back where people tried to argue a depowered THor would beat widow, despite the fact that he has no feats outside of a few SHIELD soldiers. Then people tried to argue that the agents, aliens, robots, (etc...) she took out were all just fodder and meant nothing. It makes no sense. Especially since he himself took out "fodder" SHIELD agents. The dude was featless. This is similar, though not quite as bad.