Superman & Zod Vs Thor & Hulk

Started by FrothByte8 pages
Originally posted by NemeBro
What durability feat is that?

Surviving the bifrost blast, landing face first in the dirt after falling from the hellicarrier, surviving the sokovia destruction, getting tons of rock dumped on him when Sokovia rose to the air, getting multiple unblocked punches from Kurse without getting KO'd (Supes and Zod never took that many unanswered hits), getting a repulsor blast to the face at point blank range (Zod or Supes never tanked an energy blast at that range direct to the face that I recall), getting punched by Hulk who's punch was strong enough to stop the leviathan...

Originally posted by Zack M
And? Superman said if he wanted it, he'd be dead. Superman just outclasses these guys, I think. Just like in the comics. 😛

Superman can "Say" what he wants. That doesn't mean anything. Also, speedsters constantly fight with Non speedsters in the comics. Superman might get in some speedy attacks, but again, Thor is more than capable of handling that punishment.

Kurse>>>Superman and Zod put together.

The only thing Superman outclasses is common sense; as no one in DC is smart enough to know that Clark with glasses = Superman.

You haven't even seen the movie yet, so you don't know the context. Anyway, Superman>>Kurse. Kurse was a big let down.

Originally posted by Zack M
You haven't even seen the movie yet, so you don't know the context. Anyway, Superman>>Kurse. Kurse was a big let down.

Um, no. Superman didn't display anything that would remotely put him in Kurse's class physically. Sure, Supes can fly. But Kurse would destroy him. Unless Superman has a magical black hole bomb on him, he's fkd.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Um, no. Superman didn't display anything that would remotely put him in Kurse's class physically. Sure, Supes can fly. But Kurse would destroy him. Unless Superman has a magical black hole bomb on him, he's fkd.

What did Kurse do again? Forgot. I know he owned thor the first time, but didn't Thor beat him the second time?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Surviving the bifrost blast, landing face first in the dirt after falling from the hellicarrier, surviving the sokovia destruction, getting tons of rock dumped on him when Sokovia rose to the air, getting multiple unblocked punches from Kurse without getting KO'd (Supes and Zod never took that many unanswered hits), getting a repulsor blast to the face at point blank range (Zod or Supes never tanked an energy blast at that range direct to the face that I recall), getting punched by Hulk who's punch was strong enough to stop the leviathan...
None of those are as good as Superman tanking Doomsday's heat vision or the destruction of the World Engine though (except arguably the bifrost blast).

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor Has the most powerful feats of any of the on screen versions. Hulk had an entire building fall on top of him after a prolonged fight with IM. Zod died to a neck snap.

Thor and Hulk cruise to a victory. Superman will be too busy crying in a corner after Hulk eats Zod.

That neck snap would also kill Thor (Hulk could probably heal from it though).

Originally posted by Zack M
What did Kurse do again? Forgot. I know he owned thor the first time, but didn't Thor beat him the second time?
Kurse utterly destroyed Thor physically in every way. Also, Kurse was completely impervious to all physical attacks except magic. A magic black hole grenade is the only thing that killed him. Whereas all it takes to kill a Kryptonian is to snap their necks apparently.

That's fallacious reasoning.

No one as strong as Superman tried to snap Kurse's neck. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
None of those are as good as Superman tanking Doomsday's heat vision or the destruction of the World Engine though (except arguably the bifrost blast).

Doomsday hasn't been in a movie yet so we can't know for sure how strong his heat vision is. Also as mentioned REPEATEDLY on these boards, the world engine needed multiple pulses to create the destruction it caused and yet even after multiple blasts some of the cars around it were still intact. Damaged, but intact.

That implies that the World Engine wasn't as destructive as you believe. It's purpose wasn't to destroy the world after all, simply to terraform it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Doomsday hasn't been in a movie yet so we can't know for sure how strong his heat vision is. Also as mentioned [b]REPEATEDLY on these boards, the world engine needed multiple pulses to create the destruction it caused and yet even after multiple blasts some of the cars around it were still intact. Damaged, but intact.

That implies that the World Engine wasn't as destructive as you believe. It's purpose wasn't to destroy the world after all, simply to terraform it. [/B]

The energy required to terraform a planet is considerably greater than anything Thor or Hulk have taken or dished out. Also, there was only cars and shit left on the outer rim of the blast. Superman was at the center, in the middle of the flattened crater where buildings and skyscrapers used to be, and was completely unharmed.

Also, we do in fact know how strong his heat vision is. We see the destruction it causes in the trailer.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Kurse utterly destroyed Thor physically in every way. Also, Kurse was completely impervious to all physical attacks except magic. A magic black hole grenade is the only thing that killed him. Whereas all it takes to kill a Kryptonian is to snap their necks apparently.

Statements like this show your ignorance and ineptness to understand screen feats and the power gap between Thor and a Kryptonains.

Power gap? Thor has the better power feats, see his AOE attacks in his first movie, Avengers and AOU.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Statements like this show your ignorance and ineptness to understand screen feats and the power gap between Thor and a Kryptonains.
You, Zack and nearly every other DC fanboy give FAR less reasoning why x beats y. So you calling me ignorant and inept is pretty hilarious.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Power gap? Thor has the better power feats, see his AOE attacks in his first movie, Avengers and AOU.

Honestly, the fact of the matter is DCU has no feats. All we have to go off is MoS. There really wasn't anything that impressive there either. Maybe (almost certainly) after BvS we'll have ALOT more to go off of.

Thor does have better AOE attacks, but how does that relate to this thread? His Jotunheim-slam and his massive channeling of lighting using the Chrysler building will not matter in this fight, as I don't think either attack will kill, let alone put down a Kryptonian. They're able to survive HV blast, which as we've seen can cut through buildings and re-entry into Earth's orbit. Comparing energy/heat based attacks and resistances.

Speaking for myself, I brought them up in response to the idea that Superman and Zod are more powerful.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thor does have better AOE attacks, but how does that relate to this thread? His Jotunheim-slam and his massive channeling of lighting using the Chrysler building will not matter in this fight, as I don't think either attack will kill, let alone put down a Kryptonian. They're able to survive HV blast, which as we've seen can cut through buildings and re-entry into Earth's orbit. Comparing energy/heat based attacks and resistances.

Heat vision has shown to be pretty powerful sure. But in comparison to Thor's lighting, it's not as strong. At least not yet. As I said, we don't have enough feats to REALLY compare yet. Marvel has a ton of movies. DCU has one so far, about to be 2. We'll know alot more about HV and other stuff after BvS launches.

Zod cut a skyscraper in half with a single blast when he first learned how to use it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod cut a skyscraper in half with a single blast when he first learned how to use it.
Thor destroyed a city with a lightning blast.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor destroyed a city with a lightning blast.

You're using Ulron's machine as a feat for Thor. That's like saying you can destroy a building with a hand gun, because you used a bullet fired from that gun to trigger the explosion of a bomb that was already in the building.

To your edit of adding the clip. The plot was that they were going to use the energy in Ultron's machine to destroy the city/landmass by overloading it. If Thor could have done it alone by just slamming his hammer, they wouldn't have bothered with the machine. IM helped him too from the other end.