Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Factually incorrect IH, and you know this man. Those people weren't swayed to the WS based on arguments. I didn't one person who voted for WS say that or change their mind. They just never bothered posting again, but by no means does that mean once the evidence was presented they switched.

Further, and I've challenged each and every person voting for WS, to tackle my list of areas Ozy is superior to WS in and thus why he wins. Not a single, not one person voting for WS has disputed it or being able to prove it incorrect. By all means though, if you feel you're game and all "we" have is speculation and personal theories... by all means man.

Multiple people here have disputed your points and given numerous screenshots, videos and calculations. Nibedicus is only the latest one. You refused to acknowledge these points. But just because you refuse to acknowledge them doesn't mean that no one has disputed it or was unable to prove it incorrect.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Multiple people here have disputed your points and given numerous screenshots, videos and calculations. Nibedicus is only the latest one. You refused to acknowledge these points. But just because you refuse to acknowledge them doesn't mean that no one has disputed it or was unable to prove it incorrect.

Incorrect again... NONE of that happened with my list. We went back and forth for a great while, and many number of things were posted. I consolidated most of my points into a single post and listed each one, one by one. NOT ONE PERSON refuted said points. You got to no. 1 and then stopped as we reached an impasse. However, don't say it was disputed and each point countered, and nothing of the sort happened and you know it. By all means, if you're game again.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I could have sworn I proved how WS was superior in most of the feats list you have posted before. Several times in fact.
But its just beating a dead horse at this point.

You never did, but I also understand the what you're saying about it has all been talked about at length in many regards. I agree. However, you never tackled my list.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect again... NONE of that happened with my list. We went back and forth for a great while, and many number of things were posted. I consolidated most of my points into a single post and listed each one, one by one. NOT ONE PERSON refuted said points. You got to no. 1 and then stopped as we reached an impasse. However, don't say it was disputed and each point countered, and nothing of the sort happened and you know it. By all means, if you're game again.

All of your points got refuted, you just considered them impasses and then said they were never proven wrong. Basically you think the only way for them to be refuted is if you agree that they were refuted. Which is obviously wrong. They were refuted time and again, you just didn't agree. Doesn't matter anyway, most people here gave up trying to convince you.

Blatant lie, NOTHING like that occurred. By all means, post the quote where somebody refuted each of my points in the post one by one. I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by FrothByte
All of your points got refuted, you just considered them impasses and then said they were never proven wrong. Basically you think the only way for them to be refuted is if you agree that they were refuted. Which is obviously wrong. They were refuted time and again, you just didn't agree. Doesn't matter anyway, most people here gave up trying to convince you.

It's what he does.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Blatant lie, NOTHING like that occurred. By all means, post the quote where somebody refuted each of my points in the post one by one. I'll be waiting.

Sure dude, believe whatever you want. But I'm not going to get suckered in again into putting more effort into proving you wrong like we did dozens of times already only for you to turn a blind eye to it.

I accept your concession. Never happened. By hey, you're more then welcome to TRY NOW, since you say it's so easy. Step up.

It happened, you just don't want to admit it.

KT, if you ask ppl to "step up" then you should also "step up" and accept their BZ challenges to guarantee resolution of the discussion.

Otherwise it becomes them trying to convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced of something that can't happen IRL. That is practically impossible and is pretty much a waste of everyone's time.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
KT, if you ask ppl to "step up" then you should also "step up" and accept their BZ challenges to guarantee resolution of the discussion.

Otherwise it becomes them trying to convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced of something that can't happen IRL. That is practically impossible and is pretty much a waste of everyone's time.

I have zero respect for this coward. If you read his posts you can see he rarely if ever understands the basics of the English language. His insults are also routinely reptitive and his posts full of incoherent rants.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
KT, if you ask ppl to "step up" then you should also "step up" and accept their BZ challenges to guarantee resolution of the discussion.

Otherwise it becomes them trying to convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced of something that can't happen IRL. That is practically impossible and is pretty much a waste of everyone's time.

Wait.. what are you referring to? You challenged me and I didn't accept or who are you saying did? The one person I did accept... wouldn't set a date.. proceeded to get banned. Then came back and never brought it up again.. then got perma banned. What the heck are you talking about here.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Once people started to present evidence and think about more then most people accepted that WS wins.
1st few pages were just people spewing out their opinion without thinking about it too much or looking at the evidence that was presented afterwards.
Based on screen feats WS wins this. The Ozy camp is basing their opinions on speculations and personal opinions on the few Ozy feats that were presented in the movie, and blowing up these feats to be greater than they were. Maybe its the "Snyder slo-mo" effect. 😬

I actually proved Ozy wins. WS would not even get a hit on him. No one has refuted my argument.

1. Ozy was visually faster. No one can give me a scene where WS punched faster than the fastest Ozy punch (or the fastest Rorshach or Nite Owl punches).

2. Ozy is implied faster. He perceived and caught a bullet. He will perceive WS attacks barely moving.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I could have sworn I proved how WS was superior in most of the feats list you have posted before. Several times in fact.
But its just beating a dead horse at this point.

Ozy is far faster and can perceive WS barely moving.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait.. what are you referring to? You challenged me and I didn't accept or who are you saying did? The one person I did accept... wouldn't set a date.. proceeded to get banned. Then came back and never brought it up again.. then got perma banned. What the heck are you talking about here.

You said that it should be easy for them to refute your points and they should bring back said arguments that they claimed refuted said points.

I said that if you want them to rehash same arguments that they claimed (not saying such refuting statements exist, only that they claimed that it did) refuted your points, then you should accept any BZ challenge as to offer resolution as to avoid wasting everyone's time (as it is reasonable for them to refuse as, they believe that, as they stated, there is no chance for you to ever be convinced by their arguments).

Hope this clarifies what I meant.

Originally posted by h1a8
I actually proved Ozy wins. WS would not even get a hit on him. No one has refuted my argument.

1. Ozy was visually faster. No one can give me a scene where WS punched faster than the fastest Ozy punch (or the fastest Rorshach or Nite Owl punches).

2. Ozy is implied faster. He perceived and caught a bullet. He will perceive WS attacks barely moving.

Ozy is far faster and can perceive WS barely moving.

I don't know who makes more ridiculous claims. KT for saying that Ozy kicked Rosch far more than 10 ft or you claiming WS will never land a hit on Ozy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't know who makes more ridiculous claims. KT for saying that Ozy kicked Rosch far more than 10 ft or you claiming WS will never land a hit on Ozy.

So tell me kiddo, cause now this is going to get good... How was did Ozy kick him? How many feet?

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't know who makes more ridiculous claims. KT for saying that Ozy kicked Rosch far more than 10 ft or you claiming WS will never land a hit on Ozy.

And finally, Rorshach and Nite Owl snapped punches at Ozy so fast that they were faster than any single attack WS ever launched. Ozy, parried them with casual ease.

So if Ozy can parry faster attacks than WS with casual ease then he can parry WS attacks with casual ease.

Or he would try to parry and get his bones shattered by WS vastly superior strength compared to NO and Rors?

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know how much faster a bullet is in comparison to WS? Even with 1/3 of the speed and reflexes Ozy will see him in slow motion.

And finally, Rorshach and Nite Owl snapped punches at Ozy so fast that they were faster than any single attack WS ever launched. Ozy, parried them with casual ease.

So if Ozy can parry faster attacks than WS with casual ease then he can parry WS attacks with casual ease.

Only Ozy has zero feats of parrying attacks that are faster than WS.

I'm not sure which thread is more impressive. This one, or the Khan/Yoda one. This one has gotten to this point much quicker than the other one did, but the other one's staying power has made it last since 2013.