Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'm not sure which thread is more impressive. This one, or the Khan/Yoda one. This one has gotten to this point much quicker than the other one did, but the other one's staying power has made it last since 2013.
Yeah but the Khan/Yoda one is just continuing from 1 guy trolling. Even when everyone else stops posting, he just spams the thread with 4 or 5 posts in a row claiming victory until he baits someone. He's never going to stop posting in that thread.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'm not sure which thread is more impressive. This one, or the Khan/Yoda one. This one has gotten to this point much quicker than the other one did, but the other one's staying power has made it last since 2013.
HAHAHA Nice one VD. The other one certainly has more staying power.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI out debated everyone in that thread with evidence unlike Kt and his incoherent blabbering.
Yeah but the Khan/Yoda one is just continuing from 1 guy trolling. Even when everyone else stops posting, he just spams the thread with 4 or 5 posts in a row claiming victory until he baits someone. He's never going to stop posting in that thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I out debated everyone in that thread with evidence unlike Kt and his incoherent blabbering.
You already conceded the thread. You have zero answer for Yoda immediately taking Khan's weapon as he's done before. Now either post the evidence that he has the strength to resist it or I accept your concession in full. Mind you, that is just one of the ways, there are a dozen others.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI already refuted this point by breaking down the context of that scene.
You already conceded the thread. You have zero answer for Yoda immediately taking Khan's weapon as he's done before. Now either post the evidence that he has the strength to resist it or I accept your concession in full. Mind you, that is just one of the ways, there are a dozen others.
1. She had a sword not a gun
2. She was attacking someone else not Yoda making it irrelevant to this thread
3. We do not know how long it took since Yoda came out of nowhere
4. Yoda doesn't react that way to clones who wield long ranged weapons aka guns
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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'm not sure which thread is more impressive. This one, or the Khan/Yoda one. This one has gotten to this point much quicker than the other one did, but the other one's staying power has made it last since 2013.
Because people don't value catching a bullet proof to being able to see WS in super slow motion. Most here, including you, are bias and fail to see the truth. If someone can catch a phucking bullet from close range then no way in hell should they get hit from something traveling magnitudes slower.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Only Ozy has zero feats of parrying attacks that are faster than WS.
Ozy parried at least 3 attacks that were faster than any attack made by WS in all movies. He also caught a bullet which proves he could parry WS so easily that he could use less than 1/3 of the speed he did when catching the bullet.
Originally posted by Adam GrimesActually it doesn't take any durability and very little force to parry. And it takes a fraction of the durability and force to block an attack. I can parry a punched thrown with an egg without breaking the egg.
Or he would try to parry and get his bones shattered by WS vastly superior strength compared to NO and Rors?
Lastly, Ozy has strength feats that put him at superhuman. Thus the notion of getting his bones shattered by parrying (or even blocking) is ridiculous.
Originally posted by h1a8
Because people don't value catching a bullet proof to being able to see WS in super slow motion. Most here, including you, are bias and fail to see the truth. If someone can catch a phucking bullet from close range then no way in hell should they get hit from something traveling magnitudes slower.
Firstly, you calling me biased is absolutely hilarious, considering all your antics on these boards. Secondly, I made zero comment on the bullet catch. All I commented on was the fact that this thread keeps going on. Thirdly, you taking that stance is pretty entertaining, considering the whole "fluctuating levels" argument you've been trying to peddle.
Originally posted by h1a8Actually it doesn't take any durability and very little force to parry. And it takes a fraction of the durability and force to block an attack. I can parry a punched thrown with an egg without breaking the egg.
Somewhere in these threads you mentioned you did martial arts. I now think you made that up considering what you just said above. True, parrying doesn't take much durability but blocking, especially a hard block, does indeed need a considerable amount of durability. Don't believe me? Ask the number of fighters who snapped their shins in half while blocking a kick.
True, you can soften the impact by changing leverage but still, durability is needed for a proper block.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Firstly, you calling me biased is absolutely hilarious, considering all your antics on these boards. Secondly, I made zero comment on the bullet catch. All I commented on was the fact that this thread keeps going on. Thirdly, you taking that stance is pretty entertaining, considering the whole "fluctuating levels" argument you've been trying to peddle.
H1AH, Vault is correct here. He's one of the most non biased posters we have on this forum. Doesn't mean we always agree on everything, but I think he's objective.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
H1AH, Vault is correct here. He's one of the most non biased posters we have on this forum. Doesn't mean we always agree on everything, but I think he's objective.
I should also probably specify, before H1 tries to strawman my post, that I am not personally saying the bullet catch is not impressive, or that it is not evidence of clear superspeed/perception. Just that I find his own stance amusing, considering other things he has said in his arguments.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Somewhere in these threads you mentioned you did martial arts. I now think you made that up considering what you just said above. True, parrying doesn't take much durability but blocking, especially a hard block, does indeed need a considerable amount of durability. Don't believe me? Ask the number of fighters who snapped their shins in half while blocking a kick.True, you can soften the impact by changing leverage but still, durability is needed for a proper block.
I didn't say blocking requires no durability. Well I exaggerated if I did. I meant it requires MUCH LESS durability than getting struck directly. A block has parrying elements. i'm not referring to head on blocks (since that's equivalent to getting struck). That means the force to direct the attack is less than the force to stop the attack. Parrying is merely pushing on the wrist from the side as the punch goes forward. It doesn't take much force to push an arm to the side if there is no countering force (the full force is foward). Trying to stop head on the robotic arm might result in broken bones (I agree) but not parrying it.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I should also probably specify, before H1 tries to strawman my post, that I am not personally saying the bullet catch is not impressive, or that it is not evidence of clear superspeed/perception. Just that I find his own stance amusing, considering other things he has said in his arguments.
I don't know you and assumed you are like the others (Silent the troll, Frost, etc). So I can be wrong that you are bias. TBH we all are. It's almost impossible to know it. I could very much be. But at least I try to listen to reason. I have switched sides more than any member here AFTER someone made a great point. It usually takes a great debater to do that though (Goober, Galen, etc).
I'm not perfect and I have been wrong. But I swear to you I'm not arguing for characters who I want to win. I have argued against my favorites many times. I try to not be bias and be objective. That's all I ask others to do (try).
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know you and assumed you are like the others (Silent the troll, Frost, etc). So I can be wrong that you are bias. TBH we all are. It's almost impossible to know it. I could very much be. But at least I try to listen to reason. I have switched sides more than any member here AFTER someone made a great point. It usually takes a great debater to do that though (Goober, Galen, etc).I'm not perfect and I have been wrong. But I swear to you I'm not arguing for characters who I want to win. I have argued against my favorites many times. I try to not be bias and be objective. That's all I ask others to do (try).
Well, I don't speak for whichever other people you consider biased. Just myself.
And that is why I called for the most objective third party I knew of (especially one with some authority), in the other thread. If he ends up agreeing with you, after hearing both our arguments, I will accept it. Also, plenty of people have made me change my stance before, providing they make a good enough argument. And I am one of the first people who is willing to admit if I think Cap loses a fight. Just check the different Cap threads. I even agree that Cris' precog/gun combo would net him a win in round 2, in the other thread.
And even if I still end up not agreeing in some instances, I can usually agree to disagree, so as not to get stuck in some endless loop. There comes a point, usually after a good half a dozen pages of debate, and neither side has budged an inch, where people should realise that the other side is unlikely to change their stance (or at least that the they, in particular, won't manage to make them), and just accept it, and move on, either to engaging other posters, or other threads. At least, that is how I personally choose to operate.