Originally posted by relentless1
without his powers or asgardian physiology (strength and durability) he's a regular man and as we see whenever he fights he doesnt really have any skills to speak of...cap was able to give him trouble and that was WITH powers...Baleman kicks his ass hard
You'll need to rewatch the Thor movies. Loki is quite a capable combatant, more impressive than baleman.
its been awhile but I remember him getting the upper hand on frost giants due to illusions...same way he got the upper hand on Thor besides playing to his brotherly love for him in Avengers and cheapshotting Thor...which had no effect on him whatsoever...either way those aren't hand to hand combat feats, as far as dark world goes Lokis only hand to hand feats were against featless henchmen, hardly a good case to make for him being a superior combatant
Originally posted by relentless1
its been awhile but I remember him getting the upper hand on frost giants due to illusions...same way he got the upper hand on Thor besides playing to his brotherly love for him in Avengers and cheapshotting Thor...which had no effect on him whatsoever...either way those aren't hand to hand combat feats, as far as dark world goes Lokis only hand to hand feats were against featless henchmen, hardly a good case to make for him being a superior combatant
Batman pretty much beat only fodder in his movies as well you know. The only notable opponents he ever went up against are Ra's (whom he defeated only by leaving Ra's in the train) and Bane (whom he defeated only by exploiting Bane's mask weakness).
Loki matched Thor in the first Thor movie for a good amount of time before resorting to illusions and he fought Thor in Avengers pure melee. Loki was also fast enough to keep up with Captain America. Fast enough to catch an arrow (Batman has no feat to compare to that), skilled enough to beat up a bunch of elven warriors even when only armed with a knife.
Besides, all you really need to do is watch how they move. Batman is slow as molasses.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Batman pretty much beat only fodder in his movies as well you know. The only notable opponents he ever went up against are Ra's (whom he defeated only by leaving Ra's in the train) and Bane (whom he defeated only by exploiting Bane's mask weakness).Loki matched Thor in the first Thor movie for a good amount of time before resorting to illusions and he fought Thor in Avengers pure melee. Loki was also fast enough to keep up with Captain America. Fast enough to catch an arrow (Batman has no feat to compare to that), skilled enough to beat up a bunch of elven warriors even when only armed with a knife.
Besides, all you really need to do is watch how they move. Batman is slow as molasses.
do you have actual feats of Loki as a human being fighting?????
if this was Loki with his God powers then its clearly spite....
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
The thread isn't all about who would win in just h2h. Could Loki take over Gotham and either defeat Bats or run him out of town.
Does Loki get his standard equipment and use of magic, after all the movies stated that he was taught magic, so it would really be listed under skills and not powers.