Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
do you have actual feats of Loki as a human being fighting?????if this was Loki with his God powers then its clearly spite....
No, but let's not pretend that removing his powers will diminish his fight skills. Thor has already proven this. Besides, majority of beings that Loki fought were around his level of physical stats.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, but let's not pretend that removing his powers will diminish his fight skills. Thor has already proven this. Besides, majority of beings that Loki fought were around his level of physical stats.
oh I'm not pretending,, .. you pretend a lot in these threads.. Thor and Loki are different people... Thor was shown to lose his powers , while Loki has always had his.... so please do not compare the two...
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think you understood what I said at all.
Oh I understood perfectly... You seem to want to think that Loki would/is the same as Thor when Odin took away his powers. Loki was never ever shown to be w/o his powers.. Thor was, Perhaps deal with that simple but truthful fact.... Thread is stupid, As weak as Baleman is, he beats Loki here... Batfleck would shitstomp Loki here as well... Adam West Batman prolly shitstomps Loki here as well..
Originally posted by relentless1
no, without any powers he aint taking over Gotham.. not with psychos like Joker and Two Face running around. Not to mention the superpower beings like Mr Freeze and Poison Ivy around as well.
exactly
Wait, I don't remember Mr Freeze and Ivy being in Baleman-verse....
Problem with this thread is that we don't know what a depowered Loki can do. If by "depowered", do you mean he still retains his combat "feats"of agility and skills as well as his age-gained knowledge and experience, but will have Hiddleston-level strength and durability? Or do you mean he's just a regular joe with just his mind as his primary weapon?
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Oh I understood perfectly... You seem to want to think that Loki would/is the same as Thor when Odin took away his powers. Loki was never ever shown to be w/o his powers.. Thor was, Perhaps deal with that simple but truthful fact.... Thread is stupid, As weak as Baleman is, he beats Loki here... Batfleck would shitstomp Loki here as well... Adam West Batman prolly shitstomps Loki here as well..
You're right, Loki never was shown without his powers, so how would you know that Baleman can beat him? The only time an Asgardian was ever stripped of his powers was Thor, and from that example we know he retained his skill and knowledge as well as a high degree of durability and strength.
If we apply that to Loki then Loki beats Baleman. If we don't apply that to Loki, well then this thread will go nowhere because Loki was never without his powers.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You're right, Loki never was shown without his powers, so how would you know that Baleman can beat him? The only time an Asgardian was ever stripped of his powers was Thor, and from that example we know he retained his skill and knowledge as well as a high degree of durability and strength.
Quite easily.. Loki would be susceptible to darkness... As a human being he'd fall down after being punched by Baleman. Baleman can also get into the Tumbler and run Loki over. I see you are forgetting that Thor is a warrior who honed his skill on the battlefield. Thor also had trouble fighting those cannon fodder S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. Loki
Originally posted by FrothByte If we apply that to Loki then Loki beats Baleman. If we don't apply that to Loki, well then this thread will go nowhere because Loki was never without his powers.
The thing is we cannot apply that to Loki.. If we gave Loki , Thor's human skills then Baleman must have some sort of upgrade too
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Quite easily.. Loki would be susceptible to darkness... As a human being he'd fall down after being punched by Baleman. Baleman can also get into the Tumbler and run Loki over. I see you are forgetting that Thor is a warrior who honed his skill on the battlefield. Thor also had trouble fighting those cannon fodder S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. LokiThe thing is we cannot apply that to Loki.. If we gave Loki , Thor's human skills then Baleman must have some sort of upgrade too
Loki trained as a warrior just as much as Thor did. Thor was just better, doesn't mean Loki isn't good.
What it looks like is you want to remove even Loki's fighting skills and experience, and yet giving Batman his gadgets and vehicle? Gimp much...
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor only had trouble with one Shield agent, the rest he was easily beating.
yea the big black dude iirc....
Originally posted by FrothByte
Loki trained as a warrior just as much as Thor did. Thor was just better, doesn't mean Loki isn't good.What it looks like is you want to remove even Loki's fighting skills and experience, and yet giving Batman his gadgets and vehicle? Gimp much...
B..B...But we know from actually watching the movies is that Thor is by far the better warior between him and his brother... We have seen Loki fight and he uses magic and his spear.. Never.. ever, repeat never ever have we seen Loki do some martial arts moves or start punching people...
What fighting skills??? post vids of Loki doing these fighting skills...
lmmfao... no need for me to gimp son, simply using what Baleman was shown to use...
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
B..B...But we know from actually watching the movies is that Thor is by far the better warior between him and his brother... We have seen Loki fight and he uses magic and his spear.. Never.. ever, repeat never ever have we seen Loki do some martial arts moves or start punching people...What fighting skills??? post vids of Loki doing these fighting skills...
lmmfao... no need for me to gimp son, simply using what Baleman was shown to use...
He didn't use magic and a spear against the dark elves and he took them apart pretty easily 4-on-1. Knives vs long weapons, too.
yeah, it all really comes down to equating Loki to depowered Thor; Thor was taken out by a car, by a taser and by ShIELD henchmen (eventually) and although Loki has a good showing against Dark Elf fodder he gets pummelled whenever he tries to engage Thor in any sort of hand to hand combat scenario. So if Thor > Loki with powers it stands to reason that Thor > Loki without powers as well, meaning Loki is even more susceptible to the things that caused Thor trouble on Earth. Baleman on the other hand has shown to be an expert combatant in his films and would dummy Loki if he was stripped of his powers.
P.S. had a brain fart there, forgot we were talking about Nolans Gotham here but Loki would have to go thru Bane to take over Gotham and I don't see that happening without any powers. Plus id imagine he'd be susceptible to Scarecrows fear toxin and Joker has shown that given circumstances in his favour he can be a decent spaz attacker.
Originally posted by relentless1
yeah, it all really comes down to equating Loki to depowered Thor; Thor was taken out by a car, by a taser and by ShIELD henchmen (eventually) and although Loki has a good showing against Dark Elf fodder he gets pummelled whenever he tries to engage Thor in any sort of hand to hand combat scenario. So if Thor > Loki with powers it stands to reason that Thor > Loki without powers as well, meaning Loki is even more susceptible to the things that caused Thor trouble on Earth. Baleman on the other hand has shown to be an expert combatant in his films and would dummy Loki if he was stripped of his powers.P.S. had a brain fart there, forgot we were talking about Nolans Gotham here but Loki would have to go thru Bane to take over Gotham and I don't see that happening without any powers. Plus id imagine he'd be susceptible to Scarecrows fear toxin and Joker has shown that given circumstances in his favour he can be a decent spaz attacker.
Lol. Way to downplay. Thor never got taken out by a car. He got hit by a truck twice and wasn't out. In fact he got right back up. He was taken out by a taser. He also was never taken out by SHIELD henchmen. Don't know where you got that from. He took out every SHIELD agent he came up on. The only time they took him was when he didn't fight back.
Baleman on the other hand had a hard time with the Joker.
Originally posted by relentless1
semantics, he was knocked down forcefully enough that jane got out to see if he was dead
Not semantics, you were flat out wrong. just like you were wrong about Thor losing to the Shield agents.
Try and get at least one thing about the movie correct next time you post, it might help if you actually watch the movie at least once before trying to comment on what happens.