Gauntlet: Anakin Skywalker & Ahsoka Tano

Started by Col. Valerian10 pages
Originally posted by Syndicate
He's joking mate. 😛

Damn. Anakin is so loved around here I don't know anymore.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nah. If Anakin showings was that horrible on a consistent basis he would be TK stomped by everyone he faced, he wouldn't be considered one of the most pwerful to ever do it, and he wouldn't have feats that supersede that in abundance. Ergo, the credibility of the showings isn't actually worth mentioning.

He was emotionally conflicted. He's constantly shown to have a fluctuating power level because of his emotional state, such as in his duel against Dooku. I'm simply saying it could have an effect on the outcome of the fight here.

Originally posted by Syndicate
He was emotionally conflicted. He's constantly shown to have a fluctuating power level because of his emotional state, such as in his duel against Dooku. I'm simply saying it could have an effect on the outcome of the fight here.

Been a while since I've read LoE, but do you mind explaining why he was emotionally hindered?

As for the subject in general, yes---it's more or less canon fact that Anakin's power can fluctuate depending on his emotional state, but, that same thing that can hinder him, can also amp him. As he did against Dooku when he obliterated him.
The real question is.
1) How do you go about determining whether or not he will be emotionally hindered for any given match.

And

2) Why would be be emotionally hindered against foes he has zero sort of feelings for in one way or another? These kind of matches take place in a vacuum unless stated otherwise.

Until we can figure this out, gauging whether or not his emotions will play a role, for better or worse, is pure conjecture.

The RoTS novel seems to imply that Anakin in his final battle against Dooku drew on powers he had not only never used before, but actively prevented himself from using. Given that it seems very unlikely it would come into play, unless he's provoked.

Sure. He was really intent on capturing Nute Gunray because of what he'd done to Padme in TPM and throughout the Clone Wars and thus was getting frustrated.

Well I see what you're saying here but in the fight with Dooku he got an amp from his rage because Sidious encouraged him to embrace his rage and emotions when before he had been fighting against it.

True enough and I don't think Anakin would likely be hindered here, I doubt however that he's going to get enraged like near the end of LoE or have the time to focus his energies like he did with the dreadnought feat in a fight against an opponent like Malgus who I personally view to be very much on Anakin's level. Along with the fact that Malgus will have no personal knowledge of Anakin to taunt him with and thus incidentally enrage and unwittingly amp him.

I think it's necessary although to be honest I think the effect it would have would be minimal. I just don't want people to take his best feats out of context and use it as an excuse to claim that Anakin is far better then he necessarily is normally.

Might end at 4, more likely 5, even more likely 6, 7 will do it.

Originally posted by carthage
For one Anakin has more than enough strength to withstand Malgus's lightning, and secondly his OCW feats like moving large CIS dreadknoughts/crushing Large spider droids and generally having much greater inherent force potential than Malgus should help.

Anakin Skywalker is not good at tolerating Force Lightning. He can use a lightsaber to protect himself but it won't be enough to counter Darth Malgus's Force Lightning either.

Originally posted by carthage


I suppose that Darth Malgus would be leveling cities in this kind of medium. I don't take it at face value.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I like how people use Anakin's best showings and ignore the fact that he couldn't blow open a durasteel door in LoE. The dude's extremely inconsistent when emotionally conflicted which he is almost all the time.

Thanks for revealing it.

Fans of PT era content do not want to discuss lower showings because they defy their personal agenda.

If the Chosen One was in TOR he'd be massacring a legion of Sith Lords with a broken arm while drinking a cup of tea on a dark side nexus.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
If the Chosen One was in TOR he'd be massacring a legion of Sith Lords with a broken arm while drinking a cup of tea on a dark side nexus.

In your dreams perhaps.

Anakin Skywalker is good but he is not that good.

Look at these two:

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, we usually ignore retarded showings.
Originally posted by ILS
That's just a good durability feat for the door, not an anti-feat to be used against Anakin. Nice fallacious debating Syndicate, KEK.

Priceless

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In your dreams perhaps.

Anakin Skywalker is good but he is not that good.

I'm not saying he's literally capable of doing it; I'm alluding to TOR's exaggerated and ridiculous nature.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I'm not saying he's literally capable of doing it; I'm alluding to TOR's exaggerated and ridiculous nature.

TOR is exaggerated?

Only Revan and Valkorion have significant hype. Others not so much.

Weren't you the one claiming Thanaton's lightning vastly outstripped Bane's or Sidious's and that Darth Skotia was Count Dooku's equal?

Surely if you think Thanaton and Skotia can compete with Dooku and Sidious in certain categories, they would certainly have noticeable hype from your POV.

Weren't you the one arguing Kas'im is better than TPM Maul and Darth Bane could beat Mace Windu?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Weren't you the one claiming Thanaton's lightning vastly outstripped Bane's or Sidious's and that Darth Skotia was Count Dooku's equal?

They were merely suppositions.

Darth Thanaton

However, I do believe that Darth Thanaton was more proficient in the use of Force Lightning than Darth Bane ever was.

Palpatine may have surpassed Darth Thanaton in the area of Force Lightning at some point though.

Darth Skotia

This Sith Lord was cybernetically enhanced; he was powerful enough to give second thoughts to Lord Zash about confronting him head-on. Eventually, Lord Zash dispatched her apprentice (i.e. Darth Nox) to do the deed.

However, Darth Nox had no choice but to sabotage his cybernetics in order to defeat him. This is official.

My point is that Darth Skotia was no ordinary Sith Lord. He was good enough to become a Darth in the Sith Empire.

If Thanaton is that good in your eyes in comparison to dark side legends, and Nox stomped him, how are Revan and Vitiate the only guys with truly great hype?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If Thanaton is that good in your eyes in comparison to dark side legends, and Nox stomped him, how are Revan and Vitiate the only guys with truly great hype?

Darth Nox did not defeat him in a fair manner; Darth Nox drew on the power of (several) Force ghosts to bolster his defenses and raw power to achieve breakthrough in this confrontation. We have yet to witness such magnitude of power in use in combat situations in the lore afterwards.

Do you know that several Force ghosts mortally wounded Darth Sidious on Korriban at some point?

Darth Thanaton's hype is official and his demise surprised even the likes of Darth Marr.

I maintain that only Revan and Valkorion get the nod from fans. Others not so much.

Yes well those Sith spirits were of dark lords quite a lot more powerful than the Sith Nox binded, infact IIRC it was Marka Ragnos and groupies, doing what Nadd did to Vodo.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yes well those Sith spirits were of dark lords quite a lot more powerful than the Sith Nox binded, infact IIRC it was Marka Ragnos and groupies, doing what Nadd did to Vodo.

Those Spirits remain unidentified.

I doubt that many spirits would be more potent than that of Aloysius Kallig by the way.