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Started by Time-Immemorial3 pages

Nice try.

The IAEA’s first report since the JCPOA’s January 16 “Implementation Day” offers surprisingly scant information on key issues:

Uranium Enrichment: The report does not provide inventories of low-enriched uranium Iran has declared, let alone the actual inventories the IAEA has verified. In its own response to the IAEA report, the Institute for Science and International Security draws attention to the lack of information on uranium inventories enriched to 3.67-percent and 20-percent U-235. As of December 2015, Iran had substantial inventories of the aforementioned nuclear materials as “holdup” – namely a build-up of leftover nuclear material in process equipment, as well as liquid and solid wastes, and scrap.

Centrifuge Components: The IAEA report also does not provide information about the numbers and types of centrifuge rotors and bellows in Iran’s inventory. These components are essential in assessing breakout times, and reinstallation of previously removed advanced centrifuges or installation of new ones can directly affect the one-year breakout time that proponents of the JCPOA maintain it enforces. An accounting of this inventory is also important as a baseline for further monitoring.

Implications

Insufficient reporting does no favors for the IAEA or P5+1 international negotiators. For years, Tehran has advocated for less-detailed IAEA safeguards reports, citing concerns ranging from confidentiality matters to IAEA inspection authorities under the comprehensive safeguards agreement. The IAEA has consistently refuted these arguments. Less-detailed reporting, after all, fails to provide the transparency required for the JCPOA’s verification. Over the longer term, this will only hamper efforts to reach a “broader conclusion” that all nuclear material and activities are accounted for and for peaceful use.

The issue isn't that the IAEA aren't allowed to declare publicly if Iran is breaking the agreement. It's that the rest of the nuclear industry can't get access to figures about each location with regards to reduction of uranium, removal of centrifuges so they can't tell how quickly they are complying with the UN resolution. The problem being that the resolution never stipulated that those figures needed to be reported

If it turns out Iran IS breaking the deal the IAEA CAN report it and can even say which parameters of the deal they are breaking.

For example they can report that Iran has not complied in reducing its stockpiles of uranium as per the deal

They can't say "Iran has only reduced its stockpile by x amount when it should have reduced it by y amount and so is in breach of the agreement"

Are you denouncing another of your sources then, TI?

Why do you keep posting these articles that prove your dishonesty and actually state the opposite of what you want it to be?

Yahoo is my source? 😂

Originally posted by Bardock42
You should read the link that TI posted in the other thread, it has a long section about how the 24day thing is a vast simplification and the conditions for inspection are actually very, very good for the IAEA.

Here's the link again: http://armscontrolcenter.org/the-real-facts-on-the-iran-nuclear-negotiations/

Okay, but then why can they not disclose if they break the deal? Why do we not deserve this information if Iran is breaking a deal about nukes? Surely you'd agree they have zero right to do this?

Bardock is cool with refugees mass raping his country's women and Iranians having free reign over nukes. It's all good

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, but then why can they not disclose if they break the deal? Why do we not deserve this information if Iran is breaking a deal about nukes? Surely you'd agree they have zero right to do this?

In short...they CAN report if Iran is breaking the deal.

Originally posted by jaden101
In short...they CAN report if Iran is breaking the deal.

But they also could not report it, correct? To me it shouldn't even be in question. They break the deal? We are told about it ASAP.

Originally posted by Surtur
But they also could not report it, correct? To me it shouldn't even be in question. They break the deal? We are told about it ASAP.

Look at it this way

You task me with finding out whether your wife is cheating on you

I find out that she's cheated on you 100 times with 30 people but I can only tell you the basic fact that she's cheating on you. Not the details and numbers

That's what the IAEA CAN do. Report that Iran has broke the deal...just not the where exactly and by how much.

We are talking about real nuclear weapons vs hypothetical situation, its not apples to apples comparison.

Originally posted by Raisen
Bardock is cool with refugees mass raping his country's women and Iranians having free reign over nukes. It's all good

Notice he ran off with hardcore evidence he cant refute?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We are talking about real nuclear weapons vs hypothetical situation, its not apples to apples comparison.

Yes. The only hypothetical scenario here is you saying the IAEA can't report if Iran break the deal. They can. So either you know that but you're deliberately lying or you're lying out of ignorance. Either way you don't come off looking good.

Im not lying, I just heard this on CNN yesterday and I posted a article about it. How am I lying now?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Im not lying, I just heard this on CNN yesterday and I posted a article about it. How am I lying now?

So it's the second option then. Lying out of ignorance. Not the first time you've jumped at an attention grabbing headline and not bothered to check the detail, is it?

So CNN Lied, go figure.

Ah hah, my vindication

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iaea-iran-nuke-deal-limits-reporting-violations/

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ah hah, my vindication

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iaea-iran-nuke-deal-limits-reporting-violations/

That states exactly what I've been saying. That they CAN report whether Iran have broken the deal. They just can't report which locations and to what extent. Hence "limited reporting"

So yes. You were still wrong.

That seems like a pretty big deal they cant report on the locations and to what extent..so yes I am still right. And its not even me being right or wrong, its the agreement of the deal.