Superman wins all Vs fights that involve heralds

He is solidly the most powerful herald.

Unless there is some sort of stipulation superman wins.

We can end all the debates of Superman Vs ( Character in Herald tier) He wins

I'm not being sarcastic, he wins every Herald fight. Stop making them.

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Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
He is solidly the most powerful herald.

Unless there is some sort of stipulation superman wins.

We can end all the debates of Superman Vs ( Character in Herald tier) He wins

I'm not being sarcastic, he wins every Herald fight. Stop making them.

Your opinion of things is completely off. If you took away PIS which is what happens in forum battles there are several Herald level characters and even ones in the high Meta class that could in fact destroy Superman. Power-set doesn't always mean a win, but when you have the power to shut down powers, become a living vulnerability to Superman, or simply have the ability to stun him long enough to phase him into other realms, or phase into his body and pull out his heart, brain, lungs, you will find that there are quite a few that Superman would not defeat.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
He is solidly the most powerful herald.

Unless there is some sort of stipulation superman wins.

We can end all the debates of Superman Vs ( Character in Herald tier) He wins

I'm not being sarcastic, he wins every Herald fight. Stop making them.

False.

He gets absolutely destroyed by Dracula.

Someone is angry and he created avatars to voice it.

Like if Darkseid was lobbying for Superman on the internet.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
False.

He gets absolutely destroyed by Dracula.

I honestly don't see Dracula beating a non pis/cis Superman.

Familiars are useless, Mist form is useless. Pre/Post/New 52, all those have been able to hurt intangible beings.

I don't see how Superman wins vs Dracula with two adamantium katana.

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Originally posted by SquallX
I honestly don't see Dracula beating a non pis/cis Superman.

Familiars are useless, Mist form is useless. Pre/Post/New 52, all those have been able to hurt intangible beings.

If he has his Dual Adamantium Katanas and his army of wolves, undead wolves, bats, undead bats, werewolves, undead werewolves and other creatures of the night it will be a victory for Dracula.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't see how Superman wins vs Dracula with two adamantium katana.

So do those swords grant Dracula a high level of super speed or something?

Originally posted by Surtur
So do those swords grant Dracula a high level of super speed or something?

He doesn't need them really but it just makes the fight more of a sight to watch since Dracula will be using his expert swordfighting knowledge to turn Superman into something resembling a Doner Kebab.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He doesn't need them really but it just makes the fight more of a sight to watch since Dracula will be using his expert swordfighting knowledge to turn Superman into something resembling a Doner Kebab.

Does his expert sword fighting knowledge somehow boost his speed to they point he can land a hit on a vastly faster opponent?

Originally posted by Surtur
Does his expert sword fighting knowledge somehow boost his speed to they point he can land a hit on a vastly faster opponent?

Although his speed is beyond our comprehension Dracula doesn't need the swords at all to beat Superman, he would just use them to make the fight more fun.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
If he has his Dual Adamantium Katanas and his army of wolves, undead wolves, bats, undead bats, werewolves, undead werewolves and other creatures of the night it will be a victory for Dracula.

All these are useless against a non pis/cis Clark.

One blast of Heat Vision would killed all of those familiars. A mere shockwave would kill all of them too.

Unless Dracula gets a boost that pits him far ahead of Clark, he dies pretty easily.

Originally posted by Stoic
Your opinion of things is completely off. If you took away PIS which is what happens in forum battles there are several Herald level characters and even ones in the high Meta class that could in fact destroy Superman. Power-set doesn't always mean a win, but when you have the power to shut down powers, become a living vulnerability to Superman, or simply have the ability to stun him long enough to phase him into other realms, or phase into his body and pull out his heart, brain, lungs, you will find that there are quite a few that Superman would not defeat.

Originally posted by SquallX
All these are useless against a non pis/cis Clark.

One blast of Heat Vision would killed all of those familiars. A mere shockwave would kill all of them too.

Unless Dracula gets a boost that pits him far ahead of Clark, he dies pretty easily.

Nah I'm only having a laugh, it's a running joke about Dracula being crazy powerful.

Originally posted by SquallX
All these are useless against a non pis/cis Clark.

One blast of Heat Vision would killed all of those familiars. A mere shockwave would kill all of them too.

Unless Dracula gets a boost that pits him far ahead of Clark, he dies pretty easily.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Indeed

I didn't think that you were being rude, because neither was I. There is no such thing as a non CIS Superman on battle boards unless specifically stated, otherwise it would be us in his shoes vs the resistances of other characters that he faces. He doesn't operate like Zod. He has his own personality which we see in comics all of the time. OWAW Superman doesn't replace the Superman that people know in a typical showing just like HOTM Hulk doesn't replace a typical Hulk showing. On average he is hurt and isn't the invincible character that is portrayed on battle boards. As such, there are guys that can and would take him out.

Cool

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Nah I'm only having a laugh, it's a running joke about Dracula being crazy powerful.

I've heard that Marvel Drac has been able to hang with some top Heralds before, i just wasn't sure since i've never read one of his books. While the few scans of him i've seen never impressed me much.

Since you named him, i seriously thought he was crazy powerful and they were feats out there i wasn't aware off, so i was willing to debate against you.