Originally posted by FrothByteI think hulk might of been able to do it if he went all out..who knows maybe
It's pretty much the ease with which he manhandled Thor, something which Hulk was unable to do. Most people would consider the Kryptonians around Hulk's level of strength. Which means Kurse would be above them.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's pretty much the ease with which he manhandled Thor, something which Hulk was unable to do. Most people would consider the Kryptonians around Hulk's level of strength. Which means Kurse would be above them.
All he did was swat it away, I'm not seeing how that places him an entire tier above them? Beating up Thor unarmed and just throwing him into a mountainside isn't at all above Zod smashing Clark through multiple buildings, especially when Thor was manhandled similarly by Ultron. His physical strength showings i,e lifting that boulder don't even place him above Clark.
Originally posted by carthage
All he did was swat it away, I'm not seeing how that places him an entire tier above them? Beating up Thor unarmed and just throwing him into a mountainside isn't at all above Zod smashing Clark through multiple buildings, especially when Thor was manhandled similarly by Ultron. His physical strength showings i,e lifting that boulder don't even place him above Clark.
We don't know that Thor was manhandled by Ultron. Just that Ultron had the upper hand when we cut back to the scene. Thor was strong enough to turn Hulk 360 with a punch. Kurse took numerous punches from Thor and didn't even budge. Thor was strong enough to block a full hammer punch from Hulk but was completely unable to stop Kurse's assault. So that shows Kurse above Hulk.
The question comes in whether you consider the Kryptonians as strong as Hulk or much stronger.
Well, these are just my oppinions, the Kryptonians have not done anything strengthwise that I would put past Hulk. They just had better fight scenes. This isnt a battle, just raw strength.
As far as Ultron and Thor, the scene lasted about 5 seconds and both the comments and the actions made show me that yeah, Ultron got the better of Thor when he ambushed him, then punched him and Thor made his comment but he didnt try very hard to force himself up. I dont know, I just didnt really get the impression that Ultron was much stronger than Thor, I mean, Thor never got to even hit him, if we assume Vision had Thor's power at that second, Thor could have easily knocked his ass away. Both the Kurse vs. Thor and Thor Ultron scuffle were probably the worst, unimaginative fight scenes in the Marvel Universe. Especially considering moments later him and Malekith were exchanging MOS level hits and destroying massive steel and concrete pillars ( which is better than those fragile skyscraper windows that Supes and Zod get jerked off over every ten seconds). Anyway, done ranting..
Whats 1 ton? Cap? Or that tier? Probably 1-2 I would say. In the comics, Yautja are closer to Spider-Man than cap and I could see a movie one probably maxing out between 1-2. GR is kind of iffy though. Cap definitely in that range.I always considered Cap and Preds to be about as strong as a Tiger, or Bear which would be more like superhuman and past what even a peak human should be able to do.
Supermans movie had much longer fight scenes thats it. kurse thor and hulk had equal feats in their very short movie times. The writers easily could of made them cause that much collateral damage if they wanted to , thats just it collateral damage. Supermans movie had a bigger budget/better CGI.
If they wrote Thor he would too do all that damage, possibly even more
Well, Thor has done more damage in a single strike than all the kryptonians managed to do put together in both major fight scenes. And thats a fact, not even debateable. Do I think Thor is necessarily stronger or would beat them in a fight, no. I think Faora, the best, fastest, and imo, the deadliest and most dangerous of the kryptonians would work Thor or Hulks ass over for most of any fight they got in.
As far as Kurse, no he does not have an overhead shoulder press lift greater or even equal to Supermans. It was how he was portrayed. Mjolnir both before and after Thor:TDW has been completely unstoppable. He casually swatted it away. He casually did everything. He kind of half ass hit an Asgardian forcefield. Which we are supposed to assume is strong like it was a toy. He pretty casually hefted the boulder,those punches that spun Hulk around only made Kurse barely turn his head. And you have to remember Hulk was quite a bit bigger than Kurse as well so any mass statements are invalid. Thor could spin an object bigger and heavier than Kurse with those punches but Kurse couldnt even be budged. It was pretty obvious he was meant to be portrayed as pretty much physically untouchable.
If anyone questions Hancock being on top, well then your either an idiot or havent seen the movie. No selling that train puts him far far away from any Hulk, Thor or Kryptonian on here. Honestly if someone were to say Hancock was physically stronger than all three of those guus put together I dont know if I would argue that.
Originally posted by relentless1Lol, but that's a good list. I wonder why you put wonder woman over kurse? Do you think wonder woman is stronger than foara/can give superman a better fight than her in pure h2h?
Superman
Zod
Hulk
Hancock
Wonder Woman
Kurse
Thor
Faora
Colossus
Ronan
Drax
Iron Mandon't care about the rest
Also why is colossus above ronnan, shouldn't he be Thor lèvel maybe? Idk... but the feats of him owning draw were minor
Originally posted by ShadowFyreCan you post the video to that scene
Well, Thor has done more damage in a single strike than all the kryptonians managed to do put together in both major fight scenes. And thats a fact, not even debateable. Do I think Thor is necessarily stronger or would beat them in a fight, no. I think Faora, the best, fastest, and imo, the deadliest and most dangerous of the kryptonians would work Thor or Hulks ass over for most of any fight they got in.As far as Kurse, no he does not have an overhead shoulder press lift greater or even equal to Supermans. It was how he was portrayed. Mjolnir both before and after Thor:TDW has been completely unstoppable. He casually swatted it away. He casually did everything. He kind of half ass hit an Asgardian forcefield. Which we are supposed to assume is strong like it was a toy. He pretty casually hefted the boulder,those punches that spun Hulk around only made Kurse barely turn his head. And you have to remember Hulk was quite a bit bigger than Kurse as well so any mass statements are invalid. Thor could spin an object bigger and heavier than Kurse with those punches but Kurse couldnt even be budged. It was pretty obvious he was meant to be portrayed as pretty much physically untouchable.
If anyone questions Hancock being on top, well then your either an idiot or havent seen the movie. No selling that train puts him far far away from any Hulk, Thor or Kryptonian on here. Honestly if someone were to say Hancock was physically stronger than all three of those guus put together I dont know if I would argue that.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I didnt even include WW but we can deduce by 2 scenes that she is at the very very least, Iron Man or Drax level based on her jumping a distance of at least a couple hundred feet. And the assumption that it was her that blocked DD's blade I wouldnt put her to far under Thor's level just
The two people you listed are at the very bottom of his list.