Gauntlet: Darth Nox
Darth Nox is in her prime. How far can she make it?
Warm-up: Barriss Offee
Round 1: Asajj Ventress
Round 2: Savage Opress
Round 3: Barsen'thor
Round 4: Emperor's Wrath (II)
Round 5: Hero of Tython
Round 6: Darth Malak
Round 7: Darth Maul
Round 8: Count Dooku
Round 9: Darth Malgus
Round 10: Starkiller
Boss: Darth Vader
Setting is Tatooine.
Run 1: Nox gets no rest or healing between rounds.
Run 2: Nox gets full rest and healing between rounds.
Run 1: Stops at Wrath or HOT. Nox impresses me more than any of the other protags aside from HOT who I'm unsure of, and because of the ghosts rest and healing shouldn't be too much of a problem for the most part, but I feel like the exhaustion would come into play if she has to fight through all of the other protags in sequence, so with that in mind she might fall at Wrath after having to expend her energies against Barsen'thor in a Force fight, or she'll fall at HOT after having fought through the two other protags.
Run 2: I'm not sure how Nox vs HOT goes so she may or may not stop there. Past that, I believe she can take Malak with her superior Force abilities, and I'm also not sure what to make of Nox vs Maul, but I don't see her passing Dooku with Dooku's massive edge in lightsaber combat and enough Force ability to at least contend.
So run 1 she stops at 4 or 5, run 2 she stops at 5 7 or 8
If Darth Nox have several Force ghosts bind to him, then he should clear in both scenarios, IMO.
Reasons?
- Two much raw power to wield (several Force ghosts mortally wounded Palpatine on Korriban at some point)
- Force ghosts can resurrect Darth Nox, if he is struck down
- Physical limitations become irrelevant
Run 1: Makes it to HoT but down at him. Nox (IMO) is the strongest protag, but can't fight through the others plus Savage and Asajj.
Run 2: Tbh makes it to Malgus but finishes there. Her Force advantage over Maul and Malak is too easily abused, and with it being her best suit would definitely open with it. I've always held Nox above Dooku personally for the following reasons. While I'm not saying Nox has a way to beat Dooku at all, she is skilled with a saberstaff and could definitely hold off a saber assault long enough to either throw up a shield, blast him away, or do the latter followed by Force Shroud to regain distance before using her Force advantage. While it's not very large, it's noticeably present, and her darker/more advanced/powerful sorceries would surely down him. I don't see Dooku pulling any majorities here. With Malgus, I see him being a fight she can't win. FE Malgus is too much for her IMO. His ability to mix his Force use with his saber form is really impressive (not saying Dooku is lacking, just I'm more impressed with Malgus). His ability to choke out the Protags while still maintaining full focus on dueling another was really impressive for me, and I see him utilizing stuff like hurling items while engaged in melee combat and disorienting her and taking the win. Not ruling out the chance she'd pass, just it's more likely that she goes down. Against Starkiller I don't see her being able to handle his TK and would go down in a good fight after some redirections and such. Not sure if he'd figure out a way to keep her down, but after enough beating she'd run out of steam, likely before Starkiller but possibly after.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Run 1: Makes it to HoT but down at him. Nox (IMO) is the strongest protag, but can't fight through the others plus Savage and Asajj.Run 2: Tbh makes it to Malgus but finishes there. Her Force advantage over Maul and Malak is too easily abused, and with it being her best suit would definitely open with it. I've always held Nox above Dooku personally for the following reasons. While I'm not saying Nox has a way to beat Dooku at all, she is skilled with a saberstaff and could definitely hold off a saber assault long enough to either throw up a shield, blast him away, or do the latter followed by Force Shroud to regain distance before using her Force advantage. While it's not very large, it's noticeably present, and her darker/more advanced/powerful sorceries would surely down him. I don't see Dooku pulling any majorities here. With Malgus, I see him being a fight she can't win. FE Malgus is too much for her IMO. His ability to mix his Force use with his saber form is really impressive (not saying Dooku is lacking, just I'm more impressed with Malgus). His ability to choke out the Protags while still maintaining full focus on dueling another was really impressive for me, and I see him utilizing stuff like hurling items while engaged in melee combat and disorienting her and taking the win. Not ruling out the chance she'd pass, just it's more likely that she goes down. Against Starkiller I don't see her being able to handle his TK and would go down in a good fight after some redirections and such. Not sure if he'd figure out a way to keep her down, but after enough beating she'd run out of steam, likely before Starkiller but possibly after.
I can see Maul going down to Nox so for now I won't cover that. I would like to ask what you think would allow her to beat Dooku. While I agree that Nox is surely on his level and possibly even above him to some degree I don't see her force advantage being enough to gain a majority over him especially due to his superior skill and demonstration of physical prowess even at his age.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If Darth Nox have several Force ghosts bind to him, then he should clear in both scenarios, IMO.Reasons?
- Two much raw power to wield (several Force ghosts mortally wounded Palpatine on Korriban at some point)
- Force ghosts can resurrect Darth Nox, if he is struck down
- Physical limitations become irrelevant
I assume resurrection is now allowed in these kind of battles.
Also you can't assume Nox's ghost are as powerful as the ghosts that did what you're claiming did to Sidious.
I'd like the scan/quote for Sidious being wounded by Force Ghost's btw.
Originally posted by Syndicate
I assume resurrection is now allowed in these kind of battles.Also you can't assume Nox's ghost are as powerful as the ghosts that did what you're claiming did to Sidious.
I'd like the scan/quote for Sidious being wounded by Force Ghost's btw.
Originally posted by Syndicate
I assume resurrection is now allowed in these kind of battles.Also you can't assume Nox's ghost are as powerful as the ghosts that did what you're claiming did to Sidious.
I'd like the scan/quote for Sidious being wounded by Force Ghost's btw.
Sidious mentions that he was once almost killed by ancient Sith spirits on Korriban. We don't know which spirits were responsible, what condition Palpatine was in, what time in his life he experienced this, or what constitutes as "almost killed".
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sidious mentions that he was once almost killed by ancient Sith spirits on Korriban. We don't know which spirits were responsible, what condition Palpatine was in, what time in his life he experienced this, or what constitutes as "almost killed".
Too many unknowns. Look at what Exar Kun was able to do to Luke as a force spirit.
Originally posted by Syndicate
I can see Maul going down to Nox so for now I won't cover that. I would like to ask what you think would allow her to beat Dooku. While I agree that Nox is surely on his level and possibly even above him to some degree I don't see her force advantage being enough to gain a majority over him especially due to his superior skill and demonstration of physical prowess even at his age.
Again, not saying she's be able to hold him off long in sabers, but what I'm thinking is with her training as a Sith Assassin she could easily use a blast of TK to disorient him for a momen, use Force Shroud to hide her from him (which given his power wouldn't last long at all), and regain some distance to continue a ranged assault. If you haven't already seen it, here's the Sith Inquisitior ending: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EY806fCvtlY 4:43. This is a while before her prime, and she learns far more new sorceries and techniques that I doubt Dooku could defend against.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Again, not saying she's be able to hold him off long in sabers, but what I'm thinking is with her training as a Sith Assassin she could easily use a blast of TK to disorient him for a momen, use Force Shroud to hide her from him (which given his power wouldn't last long at all), and regain some distance to continue a ranged assault. If you haven't already seen it, here's the Sith Inquisitior ending: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EY806fCvtlY 4:43. This is a while before her prime, and she learns far more new sorceries and techniques that I doubt Dooku could defend against.
What's her best feat she's accomplished with force concealment? Also why do we think that a TK blast from her would be able to even buy her enough time to hid her presence from a Dooku who already knows she's there and attacking him. Keep in mind this was a Dooku that was able to sense concealed Nightsisters after being poisoned and awakened in the middle of the night.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Pretty sure it was during DE when his last body was dying. :maybe:
Sidious mentions that he was once almost killed by ancient Sith spirits on Korriban. We don't know which spirits were responsible, what condition Palpatine was in, what time in his life he experienced this, or what constitutes as "almost killed".
Though kinda an odd for him to then right about it.