Gauntlet: Darth Nox

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nox was likely human or pureblood and it would be noticeable what species he is given he had children.

There's literally zero percent chance that Nox is a Pureblood. A Pureblood would never have ended a slave, much less one who has vast Force potential. It doesn't make sense at all.

He was either human or alien, maybe a hybrid between the two, considering his family has been enslaved for centuries. Kallig probably was human, but it would be highly probable that his enslaved descendants mingled with aliens at some point.

As for the thread, I'm unsure as to where the HoT ranks against Nox. Other than that, at least in Scenario 2, he might go down at Dooku, but I'm unsure mostly because of his near immortality.

Eh I imagine a human could **** a Zabrak, then that Dathomirian could **** a Zabrak, then that Dathomirian Zabrak hybrid could **** another Zabrak, and so on until there's not enough human to even call Nox mixed race.

But this is all pointless speculation. Nox is obviously a Gungan.

She's a beautiful mutt.

I demand Nox be a homosexual genderfluid female black otherkin Athiest Gungan becuz the equalities.

Making Nox a Christian white cis gendered male piece of shit human would've a symbol of the oppression in today's society, and his entire story would be full of microaggressions.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
If Nox is an alien, Kallig is an alien, as Talos points out. It replaces the line you keep bringing up. He also brings up about Kallig being the only supporter of aliens at the time; Hord is the one who designed the anti-alien mentality of the Empire in TOR. And being mix of Zabrak and human doesn't make you more one or the other so it's not the best example. Either way, no one said it was impossible. It's implausible.

Talos is being dumb then. Nox and Kallig don't need to be the same species. Theres enough distance between them that Kallig could be a Wookiee and it'd be plausible.

Also how could Hord have designed any aspect of Imperial culture? Unless it was pre-Vitiate.

You say it doesn't make you one or the other, but Maul and Savage are called the zabrak-bro's for a reason.

Its no more implausible than any other species and has unique content for it, making it the superior option.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
There's literally zero percent chance that Nox is a Pureblood. A Pureblood would never have ended a slave, much less one who has vast Force potential. It doesn't make sense at all.

He was either human or alien, maybe a hybrid between the two, considering his family has been enslaved for centuries. Kallig probably was human, but it would be highly probable that his enslaved descendants mingled with aliens at some point.

Pureblood was only available as an option because people whined about it. Bioware said that Nox being a pureblood made no sense as a slave.

PS. Cipher 9 is a Chiss.

I think Nox is human, Wrath is pureblood, HOT is Zabrak, and Barsen'thor is mirialan.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Pureblood was only available as an option because people whined about it. Bioware said that Nox being a pureblood made no sense as a slave.

Besides, Zash refers to Nox's Korriban rival as 'the red one'. She wouldn't do that if Nox was also red.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
There's literally zero percent chance that Nox is a Pureblood. A Pureblood would never have ended a slave, much less one who has vast Force potential. It doesn't make sense at all.

I misunderstood, then. I give you that Kallig could be a Pureblood, but Nox could be either human or alien. I think there's a high probability for either of them.

Nox simply can't be alien, despite Neph thinking he knows more than the in universe historian, simply by the virtue that it also forces Kallig to be an alien.

But why can't he? What did the in universe historian say?

Those same reasons I gave above. Talos paints Kallig as an oddity because of his lack of all around hatred for aliens if he's human, making the idea of an alien being the right hand of Tulak Hord highly unlikely. The only alien he could possibly be is Rattataki either way, as the helmet would need to fit. He also thinks said helmet would fit his heir, and Nox canonically wears it to combat Zash, most likely, further restricting Nox. More likely than not, the Inquisitor is human. Sure, you can like the alien changes the Empire angle if you want; it's just very hard to justify.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I demand Nox be a homosexual genderfluid female black otherkin Athiest Gungan becuz the equalities.

How does atheist fit with any of those LOL.

Okay, maybe homosexual because that movement often clashes with Christian fundamentalists.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Those same reasons I gave above. Talos paints Kallig as an oddity because of his lack of all around hatred for aliens if he's human, making the idea of an alien being the right hand of Tulak Hord highly unlikely. The only alien he could possibly be is Rattataki either way, as the helmet would need to fit. He also thinks said helmet would fit his heir, and Nox canonically wears it to combat Zash, most likely, further restricting Nox. More likely than not, the Inquisitor is human. Sure, you can like the alien changes the Empire angle if you want; it's just very hard to justify.

I guess that makes sense, but he could also be a Zabrak with short horns, for instance. Rattataki is also possible, yes. But I just find it hard to believe that Kallig's descendants, if human, never shagged with slaves from other species. I'm not saying he's a Twi'Lek, but a hybrid would make sense, too.

Also, isn't there a canonical Twi'Lek Sith or some other species that wouldn't make much sense to one's head under a helmet? I'm legit asking, I don't know, but if that's the case, then the 'helmet doesn't fit Nox' argument could mean very little.

It's not really that unbelievable. Humans outnumber every other species by many folds. Nox doesn't really require an alien ancestor because it is likely, or rather a certainty, most slaves are human.

The helmets skin tight, so no other species could wear it. Twi'lek, Zabrak, etc. And Nox wore it to fight Zash, so it had to fit. There were alien Sith before, under Revan, sure, but they aren't required to wear the helmet. Nox is.

Pfft, or Nox just modified the helmet. Its no big deal.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nox simply can't be alien, despite Neph thinking he knows more than the in universe historian, simply by the virtue that it also forces Kallig to be an alien.

It doesn't force anything. Talon has no reason to think that plus it's an illogical assumption. But ok, that the game has an option that says Kallig might be an alien proves that it's a 100% open possibility, helmet be damned. Unless you think you know more than the people who actually made the game. 🙂

With magic, I know. Braintails can't stand before the might of the Heir of Kallig and Tulak Hord.

Or y'know, they cut a few holes in it.

Also if Kallig was an alien in a time of alien prosecution then it makes sense that he'd hide his identity with a helmet. He could just have filed down his horns or whatever to stay hidden.

Also I edited.

Well, the game does leave Nox and Kallig's species completely ambiguous, and clearly on purpose, as well.