Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I cant stop laughing. Hes not even pointing in vaguely the same direction.
But two of Celeys scans make all of your non speedster arguments completely invalid.
1. Throws a pie at the speed of light. Im assuming it was adamntium pie since it stayed together.
2. Caught a possessed Mjolnir.
So most of your arguments center around Mjolnir somehow being catchable by Thor because of magic and not because Thor can react and catch things moving at the speed of light. In fact, most of your pretty much center around Thors low showing encounters with street level characters that he shares comics with.
Thor is not portrayed as a Speedster. Fact. Thor is not as fast as Superman or Majestic. Fact. Thor is superhumanly fast and has been shown to be able to react, close with, engage and operate in both travel and combat at faster than light. Fact. Those of you arguing Thor cant be as fast as light are quite frankly, just acting like children and trolls. Like, wtf do u want him to do? Does the comic writer have to sit there and write "Thor punches 8447474848r8484884848 times the speed of blah blah "every single time they do anything? And waste the story on some meaningless numbers that wouldnt add up anyway.
Majestic wins due to speed and swords true but anyone arguing that Thor isnt superhumanly fast despite obvious scans and the entire characters history then your straight up trolling or an idiot.
I deal in facts and what happens, some of you are letting your really wierd creepy hatred for a character make you lie and ignore things so that your character can win. Its kinda sad and makes it hard to want to stay on the battleboards when seemingly intelligent people just ignore the shit out of everything and pretend like it didnt happen. Hence, acting like children.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So everytime he uses Mjolnir it moves on its own?
Maybe, maybe not.
Essentially, what I'm trying to say is that the retcon makes it all ambiguous as hell.
Kinda like if it was revealed that Batman had developed some miracle drug when he first started, and had been taking it sometimes to boost his powers.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Spinning hammer never counted as a speed feat on KMC. Never.
He's literally announcing that he will spin Mjolnir 2x the speed of light in one of the scans. And the next page's narration literally tells us he did just that.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Maybe, maybe not.Essentially, what I'm trying to say is that the retcon makes it all ambiguous as hell.
Kinda like if it was revealed that Batman had developed some miracle drug when he first started, and had been taking it sometimes to boost his powers.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
In your kmc world. You know, the one where Thor is no faster than a human.He's literally announcing that he will spin Mjolnir 2x the speed of light in one of the scans. And the next page's narration literally tells us he did just that.
No, in everybody's KMC world. Ignoring years of posts in CBvF now? Really? It's been "debated" to death. Is Rage threatening to kill your family with some poor Mjolnir replica?
I actually do believe that he has a low meta level of speed... nothing more.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, not so much a retcon, as a focus on Mjolnir being alive and sentient:
Don't you then have to prove that Mjolnir had always reacted independently from Thor especially in the instances I showed?
I mean Mjolnir had always been dependent on the energy from his arms unless otherwise described specifically by the comic.
Mjolnir is powered by his strength.
http://imgur.com/FVrqJgY.jpg
Like when he was subconsciously holding back against Grogg.
http://imgur.com/z0v6UTL.jpg
http://imgur.com/1MyHs2i.jpg
http://imgur.com/DEhjYuq.jpg
http://imgur.com/kftXIYH.jpg
http://imgur.com/tdVs5kO.jpg
Or when he tried attacking Ghost Rider, but it fell short.
http://imgur.com/gxj1T0N.jpg
http://imgur.com/onytS9Q.jpg
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, in everybody's KMC world. Ignoring years of posts in CBvF now? Really? It's been "debated" to death. Is Rage threatening to kill your family with some poor Mjolnir replica?I actually do believe that he has a low meta level of speed... nothing more.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait.. Aren't you the same guy who claimed that Thor can't control or does not have the same effect on Mjolnir the same way Jane does? Kind of a flimsy way to throw doubt on his feats imo.Don't you then have to prove that Mjolnir had always reacted independently from Thor especially in the instances I showed?
I mean Mjolnir had always been dependent on the energy from his arms unless otherwise described specifically by the comic.
Mjolnir is powered by his strength.
http://imgur.com/FVrqJgY.jpgLike when he was subconsciously holding back against Grogg.
http://imgur.com/z0v6UTL.jpg
http://imgur.com/1MyHs2i.jpg
http://imgur.com/DEhjYuq.jpg
http://imgur.com/kftXIYH.jpg
http://imgur.com/tdVs5kO.jpgOr when he tried attacking Ghost Rider, but it fell short.
http://imgur.com/gxj1T0N.jpg
http://imgur.com/onytS9Q.jpg
I am indeed that guy.
Say I have an attack dog. It's fierce. I am unable to control it as well as my friend, who the dog loves for some weird reason. The main point, however, is that we establish that the dog has a mind of its own, and can do tricks for my friend that it wouldn't do for me.
In a fight, sometimes the dog attacks on my command, however, it has since been shown that the dog has the ability to attack without me commanding it to do so.
How would you know which is which?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I am indeed that guy.Say I have an attack dog. It's fierce. I am unable to control it as well as my friend, who the dog loves for some weird reason. The main point, however, is that we establish that the dog has a mind of its own, and can do tricks for my friend that it wouldn't do for me.
In a fight, sometimes the dog attacks on my command, however, it has since been shown that the dog has the ability to attack without me commanding it to do so.
How would you know which is which?
And again you would have to prove that in those instances I posted that it was moving independently or specifically mentally controlled by Thor. There are clear distinctions when he has done this..
Tell me how fast did he have to move here in order to block a laser in mid travel?
http://imgur.com/H7uEcZk.jpg
Old gods... slow as clouds.
1. http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/72524/3456578-3920809871-26239.jpg
2. http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/72524/3456580-9489450705-26239.jpg
So much for spinning Mjolnir at the cyclopenis speed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Old gods... slow as clouds.1. http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/72524/3456578-3920809871-26239.jpg
2. http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/72524/3456580-9489450705-26239.jpgSo much for spinning Mjolnir at the cyclopenis speed.
