Originally posted by Syndicate
Proof?
Source: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
Originally posted by Syndicate
The lightning only affected Malgus because he wasn't expecting for it to be deflected back at him by the Jedi they were fighting. If he'd had time to raise a shield or block it with his blade he could have defended himself from it. There's nothing to suggest the lightning was out of the ordinary. The shielding feat is pretty good granted but I don't see why a Jedi master would be unable to replicate such a feat.
Lord Vindican's Force Lightning is officially stated to be powerful and intense; this is expected from a Sith Inquisitor.
Originally posted by Syndicate
By Hope yes but that's the second trailer and in the first trailer she was not yet a Jedi Knight.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Yes and he did so. Even together they could not overcome him until he was tired out considerably.
Nothing implies that Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach was tired.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Yes, you're correct in that Vindican was outmaneuvered and defeated.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why? Because he failed to hold her own against the likes of Darth Malgus and Lord Vindican during this time?
Not necessarily but she still called Kao "master." Granted Anakin did this with Obi Wan too but it would make sense if she appeared as an apprentice, then a knight and then later in the novels as Grand Master as it would relate to her progression as a Jedi. Also I believe it makes note of her still being an apprentice in the first trailer. I'll try to find the quote.
If I'm unable to find it though I'm curious as to why you think she's a knight?
Originally posted by Syndicate
Not necessarily but she still called Kao "master."
Originally posted by Syndicate
Granted Anakin did this with Obi Wan too but it would make sense if she appeared as an apprentice, then a knight and then later in the novels as Grand Master as it would relate to her progression as a Jedi. Also I believe it makes note of her still being an apprentice in the first trailer. I'll try to find the quote.If I'm unable to find it though I'm curious as to why you think she's a knight?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Even before the Great War, Malgus was widely regarded as one of the greatest warriors in the Sith Empire.Source: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
Perhaps. But this development reveals the intensity of the Force Lightning nonetheless.
Lord Vindican's Force Lightning is officially stated to be powerful and intense; this is expected from a Sith Inquisitor.
By Return.
This is speculation.
Nothing implies that Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach was tired.
Yes, but this was far from easy.
Fair enough.
To be perfectly honest I don't see why Kanan or Ahsoka would be unable to block or defend against it.
Proof?
Except him breathing heavily after he defeated Vindican and having just fought both of them off simultaneously? Sure...
I'm not saying it was but it doesn't change the fact that he was defeated by Kao who was a superior opponent who had knowledge of all the forms. Kanan in turn defeated the Grand Inquisitor who was knowledgeable in all form of lightsaber combat to the point he could tell who had trained Kanan simply by observing him fight. I'd say from a dueling sense they're pretty comparable.
Return Satele is a Padawan whose only impressive feat/accolade is wielding a saberstaff, but Kanan already dealt with and defeated a more skilled saberstaff wielder and Ahsoka>Kanan, so beating Satele is completely irrelevant to every Jedi here but Ezra.
I do agree the TOR team wins since one can at least hold off Ahsoka while the other takes care of Kanan and Ezra, but making out Return Satele to be anything special is laughable.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
After Kao's death, Dar'Nala, another Jedi master, stepped in to complete Satele's training LMFAONo ****ing way Return Satele is a Knight
Anakin Skywalker continued to seek training and advice from Obi-Wan Kenobi after Knighthood and was even granted an apprentice of his own by Yoda for further learning.
I noticed that everyone neglected to note this but Kao Cen Darach was the Battlemaster of the Jedi Order. On the note of Satele as of Return, it's stated in the SWTOR Encyclopedia that he trained Satele aboard the Korriban station to a "full Jedi Knight." Beating the Jedi Battlemaster (even when worn) is better than anything I can recall from TCW. Battling Grievous for a short duration is good, and surviving a few short encounters (usually with help) with Ventress is good too, but I definitely wouldn't say it's on par with killing the Jedi Battlemaster.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
I noticed that everyone neglected to note this but Kao Cen Darach was the Battlemaster of the Jedi Order. On the note of Satele as of Return, it's stated in the SWTOR Encyclopedia that he trained Satele aboard the Korriban station to a "full Jedi Knight." Beating the Jedi Battlemaster (even when worn) is better than anything I can recall from TCW. Battling Grievous for a short duration is good, and surviving a few short encounters (usually with help) with Ventress is good too, but I definitely wouldn't say it's on par with killing the Jedi Battlemaster.
Fair enough. I'd like the quote for Satele being a knight.
For the rest I'll get to it tomorrow.
I don't have the book with me, but his Wookiepedia page uses it as the citation for the following: "Eventually, the Zabrak was assigned to serve on the security space station over the planet Korriban—the ancestral homeworld of the apparently defunct Sith Empire. During his time on the station, the young Jedi Padawan Satele Shan came to study the nature of the dark side and the use of a double-bladed lightsaber at his feet. During their time together, Darach trained her in lightsaber combat and guided her through her trials to become a full Jedi Knight." -Taken from Kao Cen Darach's Wookiepedia page, which cites the SWTOR Encyclopedia and the journal of Master Gnost Dural as its sources.
Kek at team 2 standing any chance against Vindican alone. Vindican solos, he was one of the best Inquisitors and Inquisitors-Assassins were stated to be inspired by some of the best figures in Star Wars history (Maul perhaps)? So basically Vindican has to be comparable to theme as one of the best in the class that was inspired by these people.
Vindican solos. With Malgus it's a stomp.
Originally posted by JKBart
Kek at team 2 standing any chance against Vindican alone. Vindican solos, he was one of the best Inquisitors and Inquisitors-Assassins were stated to be inspired by some of the best figures in Star Wars history (Maul perhaps)? So basically Vindican [b]has to be comparable to theme as one of the best in the class that was inspired by these people.Vindican solos. With Malgus it's a stomp. [/B]
Stop your trolling plox.