Originally posted by playa1258Flying around after he was too slow to save his gf isn't impressive in a combat feat. It's travel speed. He struggled with trucks, etc. in combat. A Coke sign hurt the pansy. He gets crushed here.
He casually moved the moon. Military pressed the San Andreas fault, reversed time.So weak.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Flying around after he was too slow to save his gf isn't impressive in a combat feat. It's travel speed. He struggled with trucks, etc. in combat. A Coke sign hurt the pansy. He gets crushed here.
Damn, its been so long since I've seen those movies. I automatically vote Reeves usually but he does have quite a few showings that say he wont last long.
That doesn't help your argument though Big Rob, if they are less than him... they still KO'd him... It was a throw of a bus that did so. These guys all beating on him at the same time have exponentially more force behind them than a thrown bus would. When looking at all the feats.. and averaging the high and low... he goes down. I can't really see any other way around it.
he beat them... so they weren't more than them. If a see guy people up 3 dudes I thought were better than him... well, I was wrong and they clearly weren't. Same thing here, they simply weren't as good. More importantly though... even if we assume they were... We can visually see them throw the bus and the speed at which they threw it. It KO'd Superman...
Bus thrown like that is <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Than all these guys beating on him at the same time. Is that not fair enough?
You're blaming cheesy 70/80's SFX when we have Reeve's lifting a fault line, travelling FTL, moving the moon etc.
It's also been some time since I watched SM2, but iirc, he caught the bus as to save the people inside. Yeah?
Even if we say his powers are somewhere in between, he's still more powerful than all the other players here. Considering he took hits from people with similar power-levels and then greater in that awful SM4.
Originally posted by RobtardSo now we ignore the film because you say so ?
You're blaming cheesy 70/80's SFX when we have Reeve's lifting a fault line, travelling FTL, moving the moon etc.It's also been some time since I watched SM2, but iirc, he caught the bus as to save the people inside. Yeah?
Even if we say his powers are somewhere in between, he's still more powerful than all the other players here. Considering he took hits from people with similar power-levels and then greater in that awful SM4.
He struggled stopping the vehicle.
Based off what is he more powerful ? Try to cite a feat to prove something and quit ignoring the combat showings.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect, they are showings, just like the ones you listed. People have this blatant misconception that high end showings are legitimate showings, low showings don't count.
Low end showings are not listed by anyone with shred of integrity and only bought up by downplayers and salty people who didn't think certain characters were as powerful as they wanted them to be
And yes, taking the best showings and assuming it to be their best (ignoring obvious outliers, of course), that's how vs debating works, if you don't like it you should go hang out at those DBZ and Narutotard infested cesspits
That couldn't be further from the truth.. that isn't how it works. A middle ground needs to be reached based on ALL showings.
Except given fiction is inconsistent, there's no real way a mean can be established, thus "average" is a very subjective thing
It's a pipedream and nothing but
The showings I listed count, and they make it clear he won't be able to take what these guys dish out. He's been put down by MUCH less than the combined might of these guys. Reeves, goes down hard.
He says, probably accepting the best showings for his side and only using low end showings for his opponents, which would make you a major hypocrite (read:quanchi)
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI believe you are forgetting an important aspect of why the bus had an effect. The bus was thrown by a Kryptonian a being with similar strength and attributes. The bus wasn't the main factor instead it was the force in which it was sent at Superman.
That doesn't help your argument though Big Rob, if they are less than him... they still KO'd him... It was a throw of a bus that did so. These guys all beating on him at the same time have exponentially more force behind them than a thrown bus would. When looking at all the feats.. and averaging the high and low... he goes down. I can't really see any other way around it.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I believe you are forgetting an important aspect of why the bus had an effect. The bus was thrown by a Kryptonian a being with similar strength and attributes. The bus wasn't the main factor instead it was the force in which it was sent at Superman.
and? None of the people inside were hurt. Clearly demonstrating it wasn't thrown hard. If it was thrown as hard as you claim... the initial throw would've seriously hurt people.. it was thrown.. flipped on tis side and hit and ground and started sliding. If you're claiming the throw was over a 100 miles an hour.. people would've been hurt. You seem to be claiming it was thrown even faster than that.. which means many would've been killed on initial impact. They weren't.
To say nothing of the fact, that we can SEE visually how fast it was thrown. It wasn't thrown that hard. However, let's say for arguments sake it was thrown at 200 miles an hour. Cool. That is still MUCH less than all these guys could dish out at the same time beating on him. MUCH less.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI will have to view the scene again. I don't recall people being on the bus. But less established one thing here. You and others are saying that Reeves was KOed just because he did not immediately remove the bus. I am not sure that is a correct statement. Either way I will review the scene again and respond back.
and? None of the people inside were hurt. Clearly demonstrating it wasn't thrown hard. If it was thrown as hard as you claim... the initial throw would've seriously hurt people.. it was thrown.. flipped on tis side and hit and ground and started sliding. If you're claiming the throw was over a 100 miles an hour.. people would've been hurt. You seem to be claiming it was thrown even faster than that.. which means many would've been killed on initial impact. They weren't.To say nothing of the fact, that we can SEE visually how fast it was thrown. It wasn't thrown that hard. However, let's say for arguments sake it was thrown at 200 miles an hour. Cool. That is still MUCH less than all these guys could dish out at the same time beating on him. MUCH less.