MCU Loki vs Movie Magneto

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MCU Loki vs Movie Magneto

Morals on
No BFR
Fight til Death or KO
Location: Stark's Building

Who wins?

Magneto collapses the building on him

Well, could go either way depending on one thing. Do they have prior knowledge of each other and powers? If not, Mags may try something that would kill a regular human only to find out that Loki is much faster and stronger/durable than a regular human. Loki is still bulletproof, stronger than an average Asgardian and judging by no injuries after what Hulk put him through, not going to be put down by anything but a house sized object or bigger being dropped on him. Which takes a lot of time, and Eric does not have shields like comic books. A lot of people are going to give Eric the auto win and they really shouldn't.

Practical power gives MCU Magneto the 6/10 over Loki though. Especially if he knows how tough he is then he can put more power into it. Mags is a beast but he is a glass canon. He can easily deal with most anybody in MCU powerwise, but one magical dagger, or illussion, or teleport up close and Loki can literally snap him like a twig.

Good match.

Magneto definitely has much more raw power but is also a lot less durable. Also have to consider that Loki has access to illusions and ranged attacks. I don't know, it could go either way. I guess it depends on how far apart they start and how much knowledge of each other they have.

If they have no prior knowledge or start pretty close to each other then I have to give the win to Loki. He's just much quicker on the draw than Magneto is. If they have knowledge of each other and start far enough apart to give Magneto time to launch a powerful enough attack then Magneto probably wins.

And before anyone says "But Magneto can simply crush Loki's armor", remember that Loki can call upon his armor at will (see Avengers) and seems to be able to magically appear and disappear at will.

Loki

Loki wins.

Loki pulls a Coulson on Maggy.

Loki wins.

Do any of these people even really have morals? Loki murdered a bunch of people, Magneto did too, and he was willing to murder a teenage girl just because he was pouting that people had a problem with mutants. Oh and he was willing to murder some 13 yr. old kid too. I'm confused as to why you said "morals on".

To be fair, we don't know if Magneto really was willing to kill that kid or if it was just a threat. But yeah, morals on doesn't really do much. Loki isn't a mutant and Magneto isn't Loki's family, so I don't see how they'd hesitate to kill each other.

Seeing the title I instantly thought Magneto wins but after some thought Loki would probably.

Mags needs shields

Mags. Everyone who calls him a glass canon is right, but he's just too much of a powerhouse, they are both surrounded by metal, and Mags can just fly out a window and bring the entire building down on Loki's head. There's also the fact that loki uses metal knifes and whatnot as offensive output. I've never seen Loki punch someone before, and thats basically what he'd have to resort to here. Even if he's not wearing his armor, Magneto should be able to feel all the metal on him, so an illusion would be worthless. There was also mags being quick enough to reflect individual bullets in First Class, so throwing knifes wont do anything here.

I'll give Loki a few wins on the off chance that he manages some sort of trickery, but Mags takes the majority by just collapsing the entire building. Mags 8/10

EDIT:
Though I did just realize an argument I made awhile back in the Magneto vs Thor thread. The armor and weapons Loki and Thor use aren't any kind of earthly metal. For that reason, there it's hard to assume that Mags can control their metal. Especially when there are so many non magnetic earthly metals.

This may net Loki more wins. I'd still give Mags the majority, since as stated, he can just bring down the entire building, and Loki cant fly.

Magneto for the overall win, I find it hard, based on the way Magneto act in the movies in regards to metal, that Loki can sneak up on him or get close to him in a meaningful way, not that it couldn't happen I just find it unlikely.

Nah, Loki wins.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
EDIT:
Though I did just realize an argument I made awhile back in the Magneto vs Thor thread. The armor and weapons Loki and Thor use aren't any kind of earthly metal. For that reason, there it's hard to assume that Mags can control their metal. Especially when there are so many non magnetic earthly metals.

This may net Loki more wins. I'd still give Mags the majority, since as stated, he can just bring down the entire building, and Loki cant fly.

I don't think movie Mags is limited to magnetic metal. All the info given on him was "controls metal". Had non metallic metal been an option, they could have build a prison from it for him or used it to make the guns instead of plastic in X-3

Originally posted by juggerman
I don't think movie Mags is limited to magnetic metal. All the info given on him was "controls metal". Had non metallic metal been an option, they could have build a prison from it for him or used it to make the guns instead of plastic in X-3

Still, he's so far only controlled Earthly metals. Asgard is a completely different world. Who knows if their "metal" even shares the basic elements as ours. Plus Loki's daggers seem to sheen with magic.

Wait, didn't X-verse Adamantium come from space? I swear I remember it being part of the plot of that awful Origins movie. Anyway, unless Magneto goes balls to the wall from the get go, and literally collapses the building around them on Loki the moment the match starts, he likely gets a dagger in the back or something.

Adamantium from space? Jesus that sounds horrible. That combined with the idea that Mags has the ability to control metal instead of just those susceptible to magnetism would go a great deal towards the idea that Mags would be able to control Loki's metal... if Origins wasn't retconned.

Then again, it was the events of origins that was retconned. The physics should still be in place. Mags may be able to control the metal, in which case he stomps

Yeah, IIRC, part of the plot of them visiting that one shithole country was because Stryker was looking for adamantium meteorites or some such nonsense. I don't remember it too well though, because that movie was really bad.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Still, he's so far only controlled Earthly metals. Asgard is a completely different world. Who knows if their "metal" even shares the basic elements as ours. Plus Loki's daggers seem to sheen with magic.

As others have stated, Adamantium was a stupid space metal. That's goes a long way in Mag's favor of controlling "other metals". I'm not 100% sure he could control Asgadian metal but more is in favor of it than against imo

Originally posted by juggerman
As others have stated, Adamantium was a stupid space metal. That's goes a long way in Mag's favor of controlling "other metals". I'm not 100% sure he could control Asgadian metal but more is in favor of it than against imo

Don't know. Seems dangerously close to a no limits fallacy. Heck, we don't even know if Asgardian weapons and armor ARE made of metal.

Has there ever been any hint that they were?