MCU Loki vs Movie Magneto

Originally posted by FrothByte
Don't know. Seems dangerously close to a no limits fallacy. Heck, we don't even know if Asgardian weapons and armor ARE made of metal.

Has there ever been any hint that they were?

I don't think it would be a no limits fallacy since he can't control any amount of metal. He clearly has limits as to how much he can control/lift at once. Would you have the same stance for Pyro controlling different kinds of fire?

As far as the weapons go; I don't think they have been called metal directly but they certainly look like they are. More points to them being some kind of metal than not

Isn't he seen controlling every known metal in the comics and even stated too as much?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, IIRC, part of the plot of them visiting that one shithole country was because Stryker was looking for adamantium meteorites or some such nonsense. I don't remember it too well though, because that movie was really bad.

Yes it came from the sky.

Originally posted by carthage
Isn't he seen controlling every known metal in the comics and even stated too as much?

In the comics I think he is limited to magnetic metals. I remember Ironman specifically using non magnetic armor to fight Magneto.

But comic Mags' powerset is magnetism based. He can create/manipulate magnetic waves. Movie Mags' powerset is only "controls metal". Magnetism isn't mentioned or shown to be a factor in the films.

Originally posted by juggerman
I don't think it would be a no limits fallacy since he can't control any amount of metal. He clearly has limits as to how much he can control/lift at once. Would you have the same stance for Pyro controlling different kinds of fire?

As far as the weapons go; I don't think they have been called metal directly but they certainly look like they are. More points to them being some kind of metal than not

Well, their armor seems to come and go at will. So I wouldn't count on Magneto being able to control Loki's armor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, their armor seems to come and go at will. So I wouldn't count on Magneto being able to control Loki's armor.

Ironman's armor technically can come and go at will too. Doesn't make it a different material. (Yes I know these a difference of how it comes and goes but the point remains)

Their armor could have easily been made out of some kind of metal and then enchanted to appear when needed. That wouldn't change the material it was made from tho.

Originally posted by juggerman
Ironman's armor technically can come and go at will too. Doesn't make it a different material. (Yes I know these a difference of how it comes and goes but the point remains)

Their armor could have easily been made out of some kind of metal and then enchanted to appear when needed. That wouldn't change the material it was made from tho.

My point is that even if it was metal and even if Magneto can control it, Loki can just magic it away. Whether that applies to his daggers as well I don't know.

Originally posted by FrothByte
My point is that even if it was metal and even if Magneto can control it, Loki can just magic it away. Whether that applies to his daggers as well I don't know.

Oh I misunderstood what you meant there. Yeah I think Loki could disappear it when needed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yes it came from the sky.

I was fairly sure it was that, but it's been a few years since I watched that entire movie from start to finish. Way too many parts that just weren't very good for me to sit through it again.

On a random note, I keep hearing rumours that the next Wolverine movie is going to be Old Man Logan, so hoping that if it is true, they don't screw it up. They'd have to swap other people in for characters like Hawkeye.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
They'd have to swap other people in for characters like Hawkeye.

And Hulk. And Red Skull. And I'm sure I'm forgetting others

Yeah, there are a handful of characters they would need but don't have the rights to, so would have to replace. I was just too lazy to be arsed to list them all, so just threw Hawkeye out as an example. 😆

Loki would probably start monologuing and Magneto, not knowing who this fool is, will try something simple to kill him. It won't work and then he'll redouble his efforts by collapsing the skyscraper on him. Magneto 9 out of 10.

Magneto rapes.

Magneto SlAUGHTERHOUSE

Well yeah it's very different post Apocalypse.

MAGNETO.

Magneto attacks Loki, discovers it's a clone then gets stabbed in the back

Originally posted by FrothByte
Magneto attacks Loki, discovers it's a clone then gets stabbed in the back

Wait until you see Apocalypse.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Magneto attacks Loki, discovers it's a clone then gets stabbed in the back

Erik uses his new powers to defend himself.
Then dumps a city on Loki.