Originally posted by It's xyz!
Or we could tell the politicians to stop selling them guns and rescuing refugees.
We are not directly selling them guns. Wha happens is we send the Iraqis "our friends" t he best equipment we have, one shot is fired they all abandon the equipment and then the enemies have better stuff then our soldiers.
Sound to good to be true? No it really happes
"One of the earliest major setbacks in the war against ISIS came last June when the U.S.-backed Iraqi army was routed by Islamic militants in the northern Iraq city of Mosul. Government forces retreated from the Islamic jihadists’ assault. They left behind a trove of costly military hardware, including U.S.-made armored Humvees, trucks, rockets, machine guns and even a helicopter. "
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/06/04/Fog-War-US-Has-Armed-ISIS
Then when Mosul collapsed they got 2,300 armoed vehicles
Its estimated they have a billion dollars in military vehicles. Yes thats $1,000,000,000,
Originally posted by Surtur
Damn that sucks.
Currently 61% of Poles are for death penalty, and as the terrorist attacks conducted by radical Muslims are going to roam Europe, I foresee these numbers going higher.
On the other hand, death penalty is at odds with the EU law, thus either change the EU law first or the dissolution of the EU will take care of that problem.
This is fresh info related to the terrorist attack. I'll translate:
http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/belgia-alarmy-bombowe-w-antwerpii-i-leuven/mk0kyf
Two bomb alerts in Belgium
In a nutshell:
First bomb threat was identified in Antwerp, possible bomb found at a bus stop on Sale Street around 8 a.m. today.
After 9 a.m. second bomb threat in Leuven, a city about 25 kilometres from Brussels. Possible bomb found at a train station, later the alarm was identified as false.
Terrible news:
http://pamelageller.com/2016/03/teacher-tweets-muslim-students-cheered-brussels.html/
Teacher Tweets that His MUSLIM STUDENTS CHEERED Brussels Attacks, POLICE Tell Him to Stop Tweeting
A teacher tweeted that the Muslim children in his class were celebrating the Belgium jihad attacks. Within a few hours, 3 police found him and advised him not to tweet any more.
This is the reality of Europe today.
They can’t stop who knows how many jihadis from blowing up a number of targets in Brussels, but they can descend on a teacher within hours of a tweet.
The same story here:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/655135/Man-says-Muslims-celebrate-Brussels-attacks
Six arrests underway in Brussels related to the bombings in Brussels.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/25/brussels-attacks-arrests-belgian-police-raids-live
Originally posted by jaden101
So you can take the "state" away from Islamic State. That I agree with. Does that eliminate the threat? We took Afghanistan away from Al Qaeda but they increased their capability until we started seizing financial assets and removing their primary fundraisers.
The point is, it's a start..it's doing something to stop the spread and the problem.
If my bedroom is on fire, and it spreads to the bathroom, I don't just say, "Well that's that" I stop it before the whole house burns down.
Unfortunately, Saudi's fund ISIS, along with the US (indirectly) so cutting off their funding is a bit of a problem.
Gets even worse, They were planning on bombing nuclear power plants.
"The Brussels bombers were allegedly planning to attack a nuclear power plant and had recorded 10 hours of surveillance footage of Belgium’s nuclear power chief, it has been reported.
Hours of reconnaissance footage of the home of the Research and Development Director of the Belgian Nuclear Programme was seized in a raid of an apartment in Brussels in December, in the wake of the Paris attacks. "
"Ibrahim and Khalid el-Bakraoui, the two brothers who blew themselves up in the terror attacks on Zaventem Airport and Maelbeek Metro Station on Tuesday, reportedly obtained the footage from a hidden camera in nearby bushes.
It is believed they may have been spying on the director as part of a possible kidnap plan to make him help them get into a plant, Belgian newspaper
Muslim woman rips up Israeli flag at Brussels memorial.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's not news- they've always wanted to do that. The point is they can't; the security is too good. That's why they only hit open public areas.(Not to mention that it's incredibly unlikely they'd even know how to blow up a nuclear plant in a particularly dangerous manner)
It's not underestimation of any sort- it's entirely based on what we see and know of them. All they have is relatively small bombs (enough to kill people at point blank range- nasty enough but no threat to anything major) and virtually no technical skills.
In fact, probably the only dangerous thing a terrorist could do with a nuclear plant is turn it off and try and wait for a meltdown. But this assumes they can take total control of the plant and subvert all security, and as the meltdown can take days, it's a pretty crappy plot.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's not underestimation of any sort- it's entirely based on what we see and know of them. All they have is relatively small bombs (enough to kill people at point blank range- nasty enough but no threat to anything major) and virtually no technical skills.In fact, probably the only dangerous thing a terrorist could do with a nuclear plant is turn it off and try and wait for a meltdown. But this assumes they can take total control of the plant and subvert all security, and as the meltdown can take days, it's a pretty crappy plot.
I was also thinking about someone working with the terrorists from the within or perhaps they will indeed be able to seize control of a nuclear plant for some time on their own, perhaps in countries with *weaker* Intelligence Agencies.
The thing is, they can't really manage complex plots like that- too many links where it can go wrong, too many things to go wrong on the day.
They've been talking about this incident as if it was some masterpiece of planning, but that's a relative judgement. All they did was walk into crowded places and hit the explode button. The pre-planning was no more complex than arranging to meet your friends somewhere- which admittedly can easily go wrong, but it;s hardly a megatriumph when it goes right. They speak about the airport bomb allowing the second bomber to move on to his target without being stopped as if this was some Machiavellian piece of brilliance, but it's all just really basic and banal.
That's about all they can manage. I mean, did you see Abdeslam's escape plan after Paris? He called some Belgian friends of his and asked to be picked up. He didn't even plan it. If they'd been out, he'd have been screwed. If they had said no, he'd have been screwed. If any of the many police checkpoints that stopped them had been doing their job, he'd have been screwed. It was a terrible escape plan. They're relying on getting lucky all the time.
They basically can't plan, so they can't hit anything big. So they go for the soft targets.
Originally posted by Stigma
The way you put it sounds plausible.I was also thinking about someone working with the terrorists from the within or perhaps they will indeed be able to seize control of a nuclear plant for some time on their own, perhaps in countries with *weaker* Intelligence Agencies.
Every time a terrorist attack happens people down play it and say it can never happen. It keeps happening.
The moment you under estimate the enemy is the day they attack and get stronger.
There are no go spots in UK where police are afraid to go. This is only going to worse until the world wakes up. This is not the first and it surely is not the last.