Possible terrorist attacks in Brussels

Started by Ushgarak10 pages

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This guy is also on the board the Gatestone Institute.

M. ZUHDI JASSER, M.D. a Syrian Arab

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuhdi_Jasser
http://aifdemocracy.org/about/staff/founder-president/

No-one gives a damn who's on it, TI. We only give a damn about the arguments advanced, and your argument you advanced from them was utter crap, totally unsubstantiated.

If you want to establish that Muslims have established no-go areas in Europe, go find some actual evidence. The fact that you can't speaks volumes.

Ok so if you think tank Demos is garbage, isn't that a personal opinion?

Just because they might have written about controversial demographics for a certain area that you don't agree with, does that mean they are wrong on everything else?

Also the source form the independent did not use Demos.

So What is your disagreement with the independent article that I posted?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-attacks-visiting-molenbeek-the-police-no-go-zone-that-was-home-to-two-of-the-gunmen-a6735551.html

I didn't say Demos was garbage- what's wrong with you? What did I just say about reading posts? Go back and check what I DID say about Demos.

And I already told you the issue with The Independent.

1. No evidence

2. No link to Islam.

Again, if you want to establish that Muslims have created no-go areas, find evidence for it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Again, are you bothering to read my posts? Thee is nothing subjective about me posting they they were relying on withdrawn studies that n longer exist and that their claims of things like white minorities in Leicester were out and out untrue- incredibly unprofessional mis-analysis. If you want to somehow try and defend idiocy like that- though I doubt I'd be able to- feel free, but you have instead just gone straight for the same trap of ignorant posting.

So, just like I said to TI- have some courtesy and read posts properly before you throw out an accusation like that. Especially if you are then going to make a ridiculous claim for rationality that you just flushed down the toilet.


I am not making any accusations, and my post with the article was direclty related to the issue of "no-go zones" and nothing more. I did not read the whole thread, of course.

I can tell you don't like them, and I'll inquire and see what's wrong with them.

On the other hand, my rationality is fine. Me quoting an international think tank from New York Post is far from ignorant, obviously. If you can make your case that they are wrong, that's fine with me. 👆

Now, I go watch friendly match Poland vs. Finland. Enjoy your evening.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I didn't say Demos was garbage- what's wrong with you? What did I just say about reading posts? Go back and check what I DID say about Demos.

And I already told you the issue with The Independent.

1. No evidence

2. No link to Islam.

Again, if you want to establish that Muslims have created no-go areas, [b]find evidence for it. [/B]

Ok well you said my sources were crap, so I considered that to mean it was garbage, yes they withdrew the claim.

The independents claim about Molenbeek is corroborated by BBC. This is where the terrorists were from.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35890960

My dislike of them in this argument is entirely down to the fact that the argument they advanced was demonstrably flawed. It is not an opinion- its is a matter of fact. If they make good arguments, I'd accept them as good arguments. I don't have an agenda.

I'm not entirely sure what your trying to get at with your first sentence there. I know what we're talking about. You asked what my problem with the source was- I told you. They cocked it up.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ok well you said my sources were crap, so I considered that to mean it was garbage, yes they withdrew the claim.

Demos wasn't your source. You still have a real problem following things.

Not but the, Demos think tank was the source where the gatestone got its information. Which is why you said it was bad info right and they withdrew the statement.

Well done! You read my post at last!

Indeed, your source was Gatestone, they TRIED to use a Demos source to establish their argument, but the source they tried to use doesn't exist.

That's not Demos' fault, it is Gatestone's.

There's a ton of demographic surveying from Demos you could try and use, btw, but none of it really supports the idea of Muslim-created no-go zones.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
My dislike of them in this argument is entirely down to the fact that the argument they advanced was [b]demonstrably flawed. It is not an opinion- its is a matter of fact. If they make good arguments, I'd accept them as good arguments. I don't have an agenda.

I'm not entirely sure what your trying to get at with your first sentence there. I know what we're talking about. You asked what my problem with the source was- I told you. They cocked it up. [/B]

Ok so if we go off of these two sources.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35890960 and the independent, we can see there is something horribly wrong going on in Molenbeek.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well done! You read my post at last!

Indeed, your source was Gatestone, they TRIED to use a Demos source to establish their argument, but the source they tried to use doesn't exist.

That's not Demos' fault, it is Gatestone's.

There's a ton of demographic surveying from Demos you could try and use, btw, but none of it really supports the idea of Muslim-created no-go zones.

🙂

I don't think anyone would deny there's a lot of things going horribly wrong in Molenbeek. It's just that Molenbeek isn't an official no-go zone for the police...

I guess the no go zones exist, but the definition is different then some thought, like myself.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I guess the no go zones exist, but the definition is different then some thought, like myself.

I swear to God, TI. I'm a just as much of a right-wing nutter as you are but sometimes you really go full retard.

I think you misunderstood what I said.

I mean they exist, but the definition has a different meaning then "police no go zones"

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think you misunderstood what I said.

I mean they exist, but the definition has a different meaning then "police no go zones"


Ah, well in that context I guess you're right. Most people don't go to Molenbeek if they've no business there. Just like most Americans don't go to Compton or Southside Chicago.

The missing American from the bombing is now confirmed dead.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/26/american-confirmed-dead-in-brussels-attacks-family-says.html

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/19th-century-belgian-law-allowed-bombing-suspects-to-go-free/ar-BBr5Q2E?li=BBnb7Kz

About how a law that lets people go after serving 1/3 of their sentence let those responsible for this free.

I totally understand freeing non-violent offenders early if they behave..but one of these dudes shot someone, the other committed armed robbery.

No opinions on this? These guys should of been in jail. It makes me wonder if we do the same thing in this country: let violent pieces of shit out of jail early.

Originally posted by Slay
Ah, well in that context I guess you're right. Most people don't go to Molenbeek if they've no business there. Just like most Americans don't go to Compton or Southside Chicago.

compton isn't that bad anymore. surenos took over the city for the most part. used to have a computer class at compton college. saw one student defecate in public there. good ol days