Originally posted by It's xyz!*150,000,000
and super saiyan Goku was at 15,000,000
Originally posted by NewGuy01Anime filler line. The canon manga dialogue doesn't mention anything about '10 earths' or whathaveyou:
And yet EoZ Goku and Vegeta at SSJ1 had no way of stopping a blast with enough energy to destroy "10 earths."
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, I know, my issue is with Akira and those working with him having no sense of scale. It's the primary source of confusion in these DB crossover debates, because unlike Ki control which can be explained, strength is strength. A blow with the force equivalent of an exploding star isn't just going to crack stone on impact, but it does anyway.The implication of their strength is there, but their feats are complete shit.
A punch thrown with the force of an exploding star is going to cause a chain reaction of atomic explosions that destroy the solar system. The difference in DBZ is that the characters can control their ki to stop from destroying the environment around them. This has been a major plot point since Dragon Ball, when Roshi was pretending to be Jackie Chun. Even novices like Goten and Trunks know this, and refrain from destroying the solar system with their Super Saiyan energy blasts.
What you're saying is like me claiming that the Flash's infinite mass punch has less force than a punch thrown by Tyson; It's not that he CAN'T destroy the planet with said punch, it's that it's not his GOAL to do so. If the Flash is trying to defend Earth, by killing a badguy threatening it, then what's the point if he blows up Earth himself? He directs his attack at his target, just like the Z-fighters do. Why do you think Superman and Doomsday didn't destroy Earth when they were fighting? If I'm in a fight, and I punch someone in the face, it doesn't magically break everything in the vicinity that isn't sufficiently durable to withstand said punch. You can't compare the scale of these though. This is a cartoon, but the same logic applies, even if the physics are different.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And yet EoZ Goku and Vegeta at SSJ1 had no way of stopping a blast with enough energy to destroy "10 earths." And their power levels at that point should have been in the billions, or approaching that.
Come on, NewGuy, using non-canon filler dubbing-errors? You're better than that. 😬
Boros can beat 23rd budokai Goku since even though 23rd Budokai Goku has more power than Boros his super KHH can shatter the Moon and scales from Roshi his speed is lacking. Raditz era Goku and Piccolo and above one shot him however.
As for the physical strength thing mentioned earlier there are characters in DB who laugh off energy blasts that can destroy a planet with no damage but a punch from a stronger opponent they can get wrecked by.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Boros can beat 23rd budokai Goku since even though 23rd Budokai Goku has more power than Boros his super KHH can shatter the Moon and scales from Roshi his speed is lacking. Raditz era Goku and Piccolo and above one shot him however.As for the physical strength thing mentioned earlier there are characters in DB who laugh off energy blasts that can destroy a planet with no damage but a punch from a stronger opponent they can get wrecked by.
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