Don't flatter yourself. I don't take note of everything you say. I just tend to remember things I find particularly laughable.
Edit: I am not really trying to take a swipe at you, but even you have to admit that you occasionally say some suspect things in the heat of the moment, the previous post being an example.
Originally posted by carver9
So her pulling on the lasso and gaining leverage was pointless?So he can hang with Doomsday? I honestly doubt it. To each his own.
WTF. So his showing against Ultron wasn't serious. Please explain why.
In the way that Diana hung with Doomsday? Absolutely.
He wasn't trying to fight Ultron, he was stalling for Vision, or whoever it was
EDIT: Ok, hold on a second. I'm not one to usually bring cross thread shit up, but I was reading the the Hulk vs. Doomsday thread, and you think that Hulk would kill Doomsday. Yet, Thor who had a fight with Hulk, in closed in quarters while holding back, can't even hang with Doomsday, and then somehow by proxy loses to Wonder Woman? Please expound.
WW seems to be stronger, but that's all we can really say about her. We don't know if she's more durable than Thor because most of the hits she took from Doomsday were either glancing hits or were blocked by bracers and shield.
We can't say she has better fighting ability because Doomsday wasn't exactly a skilled fighter, plus WW had help.
We also don't know if she can match Thor's power output. Her bracer blast was pretty awesome but I'm unsure if that's enough to match some of Thor's lightning and charged strikes.
Till we know more of WW, Thor simply has too many feats and too many advantages.
Despite that, we know she can use the bracers to absorb large quantities of energy, so lightning is useless. Her sword could definitely peirce Thor if it can take a limb off of Doomsday, so any hit of hers connecting is going to be fatal for Thor. That sword is just too much of an advantage. I agree that her limits are a bit unknown, but a potential 1-hit kill weapon combined with what we've seen would definitely net her the win
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Despite that, we know she can use the bracers to absorb large quantities of energy, so lightning is useless. Her sword could definitely peirce Thor if it can take a limb off of Doomsday, so any hit of hers connecting is going to be fatal for Thor. That sword is just too much of an advantage. I agree that her limits are a bit unknown, but a potential 1-hit kill weapon combined with what we've seen would definitely net her the win
Only if she blocks the lightning. Thor has been shown to be able to fork his lightning. WW didn't easily take off DD's hand. She put effort into that. Thor has been stabbed with Gungir IIRC and was still fine. Thor also has armor. Calling WW's sword an insta kill weapon is a bit of an exaggeration methinks.
We can just as easily say that WW won't survive a full hit to the face from Mjolnir.
Originally posted by FrothByteMjolnir and Gungir didn't take a limb off a being who tanked a nuke, reentry, and full on hits from Superman in one swipe. Not the same at all. If it can take a limb off of DD, it can definitely do the same or worse to Thor, armor or not.
Only if she blocks the lightning. Thor has been shown to be able to fork his lightning. WW didn't easily take off DD's hand. She put effort into that. Thor has been stabbed with Gungir IIRC and was still fine. Thor also has armor. Calling WW's sword an insta kill weapon is a bit of an exaggeration methinks.We can just as easily say that WW won't survive a full hit to the face from Mjolnir.
And WWs bracers absorbed DDs AOE attack from all around her. It's not like he blasted her with heat vision from straight on. She should have no problem absorbing the lightning from whatever angle it comes from.
It wasn't an AOE attack. It was heat vision directed at Batman. The AOE blast she took on her shield. Thor has shown he can split his lightning and hit multiple targets like when he took out the leviathans. Unless you're claiming that WW can somehow draw all attacks into her bracers... which you'll have to prove.
Again, she didn't easily lop off DD's hand. If you really want to claim that her sword can one-shot someone of Thor's durability you'll have to prove it.
I have no problem thinking the sword can cut Thor. Just don't think it's some kind of lightsaber going through androids.
Originally posted by FrothByteThe first one I'll give you. I cant prove it until I rewatch the movie unless someone else chimes in, but I remember it being the AOE attack she saved Batman from that scene. If it was the heat vision, then she should still be able to block a pretty large angle by hiding behind the shield.
It wasn't an AOE attack. It was heat vision directed at Batman. The AOE blast she took on her shield. Thor has shown he can split his lightning and hit multiple targets like when he took out the leviathans. Unless you're claiming that WW can somehow draw all attacks into her bracers... which you'll have to prove.Again, she didn't easily lop off DD's hand. If you really want to claim that her sword can one-shot someone of Thor's durability you'll have to prove it.
That burden of proof is on you for the second one though. If you're saying she cant take a limb or worse off Thor, you need to prove that Thor, even with his armor, is somehow more durable with that Doomsday despite DDs durability feats being the best on screen for any being in any superhero movie. I'd agree if he still had his Ultron feat of surviving the exploding city, but someone recently debunked that (which sucks since that was one of my favorite feats of his). If you can't, she can easily 1-hit kill Thor with it.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
The first one I'll give you. I cant prove it until I rewatch the movie unless someone else chimes in, but I remember it being the AOE attack she saved Batman from that scene. If it was the heat vision, then she should still be able to block a pretty large angle by hiding behind the shield.That burden of proof is on you for the second one though. If you're saying she cant take a limb or worse off Thor, you need to prove that Thor, even with his armor, is somehow more durable with that Doomsday despite DDs durability feats being the best on screen for any being in any superhero movie. I'd agree if he still had his Ultron feat of surviving the exploding city, but someone recently debunked that (which sucks since that was one of my favorite feats of his). If you can't, she can easily 1-hit kill Thor with it.
Loki stabbed Thor with a small blade...had him limp and holding his side. Wonder Woman sword would easily cut through him.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
The first one I'll give you. I cant prove it until I rewatch the movie unless someone else chimes in, but I remember it being the AOE attack she saved Batman from that scene. If it was the heat vision, then she should still be able to block a pretty large angle by hiding behind the shield.That burden of proof is on you for the second one though. If you're saying she cant take a limb or worse off Thor, you need to prove that Thor, even with his armor, is somehow more durable with that Doomsday despite DDs durability feats being the best on screen for any being in any superhero movie. I'd agree if he still had his Ultron feat of surviving the exploding city, but someone recently debunked that (which sucks since that was one of my favorite feats of his). If you can't, she can easily 1-hit kill Thor with it.
I'm not saying she can't cut or dismember Thor, I'm saying it won't be as easy as just landing 1 hit unless it's a ridiculously clean hit. Asgardians are bullet proof, Loki has survived the vacuum of space, Thor has multiple durability feats (don't know who debunked that Ultron feat - was it legit?), Thor has been stabbed by two weapons that hurt him but didn't seriously injure him. Thor has been one of the most durable superheroes we've had in recent years. You can't just say WW can one-shot him with her sword without backing that up with something. As I mentioned, WW struggled to cut DD's hand. She can probably cut his head off given a proper hit, but I doubt she can get a fatal hit with just one shot against his armor.
Did you know that it's easier to land a fatal shot with a stab than with a cut? You only need 4 ounces of pressure to land a fatal thrust on someone with a sharp sword. Pretty sure that's a lot less pressure than that needed to cut off someone's hand.
Of course, this is considering that WW can actually land a hit. Right now Thor has way more skill feats than WW.
Originally posted by Robtard
While it's silly to assume WW's sword wouldn't hurt Thor, let us not overplay Thor being stabbed by Loki, it hurt him, yes, but he recovered quickly enough to put the beat-down on Loki to the point Loki had to flee or face a Thor that was no longer holding back because of family sentiment.
Holding back? When was it said that he was holding back?
Originally posted by carver9
Holding back? When was it said that he was holding back?
His speech about brotherhood, family and trying yet once again to get Loki to see the error of this ways through reason. Which coincidentally ended right after Loki sneak-stabs Thor and Thor immediately kicks Loki's ass and Loki has to flee. That.
You don't really think a hammer-less wounded Thor is more formidable than a Mjolnir wielding unwounded Thor, do you?
Originally posted by Robtard
His speech about brotherhood, family and trying yet once again to get Loki to see the error of this ways through reason. Which coincidentally ended right after Loki sneak-stabs Thor and Thor immediately kicks Loki's ass and Loki has to flee. That.
WTF man. When has Thor ever not hold back.? The only time you all say he isn't holding back is when he does good. Nothing in that fight proves he was holding back and he hit Loki twice when he gained the advantage and Loki was ok afterwards. So again I ask, when did Thor actually not pull his punches? Was he holding back against Kurse?
Originally posted by carver9
WTF man. When has Thor ever not hold back.? The only time you all say he isn't holding back is when he does good. Nothing in that fight proves he was holding back and he hit Loki twice when he gained the advantage and Loki was ok afterwards. So again I ask, when did Thor actually not pull his punches? Was he holding back against Kurse?
You need to watch the movie.