Wonder Woman Vs Thor

Originally posted by Robtard
His speech about brotherhood, family and trying yet once again to get Loki to see the error of this ways through reason. Which coincidentally ended right after Loki sneak-stabs Thor and Thor immediately kicks Loki's ass and Loki has to flee. That.

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You don't really think a hammer-less wounded Thor is more formidable than a Mjolnir wielding unwounded Thor, do you?

Originally posted by carver9
WTF man. When has Thor ever not hold back.? The only time you all say he isn't holding back is when he does good. Nothing in that fight proves he was holding back and he hit Loki twice when he gained the advantage and Loki was ok afterwards. So again I ask, when did Thor actually not pull his punches? Was he holding back against Kurse?

Thor generally holds back when facing Loki, because of the family thing. Why would he hold back against Kurse? Not sure anyone's said Thor holds back against Kurse.

Originally posted by Robtard
Watch the scene I just posted and see how easily Thor puts Loki down after he's wounded and without his hammer.

Thor generally holds back when facing Loki, because of the family thing. Why would he hold back against Kurse? Not sure anyone's said Thor holds back against Kurse.

Originally posted by Robtard
Watch the scene I just posted and see how easily Thor puts Loki down after he's wounded and without his hammer.

Thor generally holds back when facing Loki, because of the family thing. Why would he hold back against Kurse? Not sure anyone's said Thor holds back against Kurse.

Lol..so what I'm gathering is, he held back against Loki, Hulk, Ultron, Ironman...lol, am I missing someone?

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yah, Thor got his ass kicked against Kurse. But that's not surprising seeing as Kurse is supposed to easily outmatch Thor. Only thing that stopped Kurse was a magic "Black Hole" grenade.

I say he held back against Kurse.

Since "Thor" it's pretty much been depicted that Thor could wipe the floor with Loki if he wanted, even when Loki has powerful weapons at his disposal (Gungir, mind-scepter) Thor is still superior.

Even Loki knows this when he causally states Thor's power regarding how Thor could have kicked every Frost Giants ******* in.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol..so what I'm gathering is, he held back against Loki, Hulk, Ultron, Ironman...lol, am I missing someone?

As far as Kurse? He wasn't holding back he just got caught by surprise. He had no idea how powerful Kurse was. For Kurse to casually swat Mjolnir traveling at full speed when Hulk couldn't even lift it off the ground...let that sink in there Carver.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol..so what I'm gathering is, he held back against Loki, Hulk, Ultron, Ironman...lol, am I missing someone?

Bro, my advice to you is to rewatch the films:

-Loki's his brother and he generally hold back because of that bond. But by the events of Thor: The Dark World, Thor seems to not be so lenient anymore, but that changes again mid-film, we'll see how Thor handles Loki killing their father in Thor: Ragnarok

-Hulk was his teammate and going all out would have risked destroying the hellicarrier and killing everyone

-Ironman he knew was a "mortal" and we see Thor being dismissive to Tony at the being

-Ultron he held back at the end due to plot-device. We literally see/hear Thor comment that he was just stalling Ultron long enough for Tony to do his thing

The one person he outright tried to kill when he lost his temper was Captain America, if it wasn't for Cap's shield being vibranium and deflecting the energy of the blow, Cap would have been a pancake, but that was more or less a scene to illustrate Thor's power and what Cap's shield can do with said power

Also, regarding Ultron. Keep in mind this was Ultron at his most powerful. The only person to fight him was Thor. Vision cheap shotted him (due to the plan with Thor).

Hulk was only able to damage Ulron after he got triple teamed by Thor, Vision and Iron Man going full energy blast on him. The fight with Thor was to legitimize Ultron's physical power before he got melted.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not saying she can't cut or dismember Thor, I'm saying it won't be as easy as just landing 1 hit unless it's a ridiculously clean hit. Asgardians are bullet proof, Loki has survived the vacuum of space, Thor has multiple durability feats (don't know who debunked that Ultron feat - was it legit?), Thor has been stabbed by two weapons that hurt him but didn't seriously injure him. Thor has been one of the most durable superheroes we've had in recent years. You can't just say WW can one-shot him with her sword without backing that up with something. As I mentioned, WW struggled to cut DD's hand. She can probably cut his head off given a proper hit, but I doubt she can get a fatal hit with just one shot against his armor.

Did you know that it's easier to land a fatal shot with a stab than with a cut? You only need 4 ounces of pressure to land a fatal thrust on someone with a sharp sword. Pretty sure that's a lot less pressure than that needed to cut off someone's hand.

Of course, this is considering that WW can actually land a hit. Right now Thor has way more skill feats than WW.

And yeah, I understand that stabs are likely more lethal and easier to kill people with, but that doesn't really factor in when the person in question can cleave you in two as easily as they can poke you

That last part is an argument I can get behind though. Thor was able to weave between Hulks attacks easily to the point where Banner couldn't really tag him. Its arguable that he could hit WW before she gets her slice in, even if Doomsday couldn't really get a hit on her with any attack (he was fighting 3 people after all), and the fact that WW is likely much faster than Thor. You could also take the Quan route and say that Thors hammer would kill WW in one shot despite how highly unlikely it is since I cant back it up with durability feats with WW due to her being skillful enough to avoid damage. This is a cheese argument, but I cant do much about it until WWs next showing, and people will continue to claim she's a glass cannon until then.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thors durability feats don't mean much when she dismembered someone with durability feats that dwarfed his. You keep saying she had to put in effort to cut off DDs arm, but it was done in just one swipe. She wouldn't even struggle doing it to someone far below DDs durability level. It really makes no sense to think she cant 1-shot him with a slice of the sword, since it will literally go through any body part it connects with like butter.

And yeah, I understand that stabs are likely more lethal and easier to kill people with, but that doesn't really factor in when the person in question can cleave you in two as easily as they can poke you

That last part is an argument I can get behind though. Thor was able to weave between Hulks attacks easily to the point where Banner couldn't really tag him. Its arguable that he could hit WW before she gets her slice in, even if Doomsday couldn't really get a hit on her with any attack (he was fighting 3 people after all), and the fact that WW is likely much faster than Thor. You could also take the Quan route and say that Thors hammer would kill WW in one shot despite how highly unlikely it is since I cant back it up with durability feats with WW due to her being skillful enough to avoid damage. This is a cheese argument, but I cant do much about it until WWs next showing, and people will continue to claim she's a glass cannon until then.

Well yeah, I can easily say Thor can kill WW with a clear shot of Mjolnir, especially a charged strike... but I honestly think these 2 combatants are durable enough to survive a few blows from each other, and that includes a sword strike. Do I believe WW can cut limbs off Thor? Yes I do, I just think it needs to be a very clean hit at a very precise angle that probably won't be doable in a full fight. The way I see it is she gets a few glancing hits on Thor which won't really do much damage.

Anyway, let's move away from that argument. There's no proof that WW is faster than Thor. She jumped pretty fast, but that's leg strength not exactly speed. As I said in my original post, WW doesn't really have the feats to beat Thor at the moment. Thor was able to dodge shots from Ultron's drone point blank range (after party fight) so he's pretty fast and skilled himself when he needs to be.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Nope, that's about it. Think about it. Think about What Thor's top feats are, and what he can do. Destroyer armor is above any of the people you listed, so Thor displayed more of his powers. Sure, the Ultron plan he had with Vision seemed a bit dumb (it was a setup for the audience to appreciate Vision more), but the rest are legit. Thor isn't going to kill any of those guys. He can't "Cut loose".

As far as Kurse? He wasn't holding back he just got caught by surprise. He had no idea how powerful Kurse was. For Kurse to casually swat Mjolnir traveling at full speed when Hulk couldn't even lift it off the ground...let that sink in there Carver.

I know what Loki and Hulk can do as well and neither displayed that power against Thor. I guess they held back as well.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Bro, my advice to you is to rewatch the films:

-Loki's his brother and he generally hold back because of that bond. But by the events of Thor: The Dark World, Thor seems to not be so lenient anymore, but that changes again mid-film, we'll see how Thor handles Loki killing their father in Thor: Ragnarok

-Hulk was his teammate and going all out would have risked destroying the hellicarrier and killing everyone

-Ironman he knew was a "mortal" and we see Thor being dismissive to Tony at the being

-Ultron he held back at the end due to plot-device. We literally see/hear Thor comment that he was just stalling Ultron long enough for Tony to do his thing

The one person he outright tried to kill when he lost his temper was Captain America, if it wasn't for Cap's shield being vibranium and deflecting the energy of the blow, Cap would have been a pancake, but that was more or less a scene to illustrate Thor's power and what Cap's shield can do with said power

He knew Cap was mortal as well and tried to kill him. So the question is, who has Thor went all out against?

Originally posted by carver9
I know what Loki and Hulk can do as well and neither displayed that power against Thor. I guess they held back as well.

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Thor can do more than that, but only fought him as a brick.

Thor held back (and was also weakened), Hulk was enraged and didn't hold back. I'm sorry if this upsets you.

Originally posted by carver9
He knew Cap was mortal as well and tried to kill him. So the question is, who has Thor went all out against?

Probably the begging of Thor 1 even though he seems like he was having fun wrecking those Ice giants like nothing. Even killed that giant beast like it was childs play.
Against the Destroyer as well. But the truth of it is that up to now we still havent seen a full bloodlusted Thor yet.

I don't think anyone would argue that Diana's sword wouldn't cut Thor. But he's not some giant raging cave troll like Doomsday. He's a skilled warrior, and as far as we know right now, more skilled than WW. She's not just going to own him with her sword.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Probably the begging of Thor 1 even though he seems like he was having fun wrecking those Ice giants like nothing. Even killed that giant beast like it was childs play.
Against the Destroyer as well. But the truth of it is that up to now we still havent seen a full bloodlusted Thor yet.

SMH.

Thor wins.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hulk can punch people. This is about the extent of his powerset.

Thor can do more than that, but only fought him as a brick.

Thor held back (and was also weakened), Hulk was enraged and didn't hold back. I'm sorry if this upsets you.

So he held back against Kurse as well? Ultron? The ending fight against Loki? A tornado isn't stopping Hulk. Thor lightning isnt stopping Hulk. So I'm trying to figure out what in the world you are talking about.

Could go either way. She took DD head on. Thor took someone on less powerful then DD and got wrecked. He is going to have a hard time dealing with her speed. That shield and armor and gauntles can block the hammer.