Beating Grievous.
Forcing Mace to use all his skills to defeat her before her prime.
Beating Kit Fisto.
Holding her own against both Anakin and Obi Wan.
Holding her own against Dooku.
Having superior offensive force capabilities.
Her equipment providing her more options.
The only thing Ahsoka really has on her is possibly superior force defenses but we don't even know that given the inconsistency which Vader employs his telekinetic advantage over most of his opponents.
Originally posted by SyndicateOn a nexus, while Grievous was jobbing. Not that Ahsoka couldn't defeat him.
Beating Grievous.
Forcing Mace to use all his skills to defeat her before her prime.Pretty sure Vader used "all his skills" against Ahsoka as well, yet failed to penetrate her defenses after a much lengthier engagement.
Beating Kit Fisto.A good showing, but largely achieved by through a stylistic advantage.
At that point Ventress couldn't defeat a JC member in a fair fight, like Plo Koon.
Holding her own against both Anakin and Obi Wan.And was defeated in short order, not on level with Ahsoka holding her own against Vader for much longer.
Holding her own against Dooku.How? In a 1 v 1 she was obliterated. If anything it demonstrates she'd be entirely outmatched against a duelist of Ahsoka's caliber.
Which leads me to doubt his peer required all his skills to rout her after all.
Having superior offensive force capabilities.Forcing Vader to bend the knee > anything Ventress has accomplished, without circumstance. In fact I'd argue that incapacitating the Seventh Sister + Brother > what Ventress has accomplished.
Her equipment providing her more options.Jar'Kai is hardly new to her and she contending on equal ground with a superior saberstaff wielder in Maul.
The only thing Ahsoka really has on her is possibly superior force defenses but we don't even know that given the inconsistency which Vader employs his telekinetic advantage over most of his opponents.Most? Care to name a few?
And I wouldn't say so. Ahsoka has demonstrated superior skill to Ventress in contending evenly with Maul. And greater speed, strength and stamina in her performance against Vader.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
On a nexus, while Grievous was jobbing. Not that Ahsoka couldn't defeat him.Pretty sure Vader used "all his skills" against Ahsoka as well, yet failed to penetrate her defenses after a much lengthier engagement.A good showing, but largely achieved by through a stylistic advantage.At that point Ventress couldn't defeat a JC member in a fair fight, like Plo Koon.
And was defeated in short order, not on level with Ahsoka holding her own against Vader for much longer.How? In a 1 v 1 she was obliterated.Which leads me to doubt his peer required all his skills to rout her.Forcing Vader to bend the knee > anything Ventress has accomplished, without circumstance.Jar'Kai is hardly new to her and she contending on equal ground with a superior saberstaff wielder in Maul.Most? Care to name a few?
And I wouldn't say so. Ahsoka has demonstrated superior skill to Ventress in contending evenly with Maul. And greater speed, strength and stamina in her performance against Vader.
Jobbing's an excuse that means nothing to me. There's nothing to suggest it. Granted it was on a nexus.
I'd contest that given Vader seemed to ignore her after he thought she'd been dealt with. His main focus was getting the Sith artifact.
Not contesting that as it's true. She's on par with CM's by that point though given her performances and is a bit above them by her prime.
I'd say Anakin and Obi Wan are a greater threat then Vader. Granted Ahsoka did last longer but from what I saw Vader wasn't giving her his full attention.
She was being driven back in a 1v1 yes though we don't know how long she could have lasted had he chosen to not employ his force powers. There's also the fact that she had been going back and forth with him a while before that and had just been choked by Savage, granted Dooku had been as well but he has techniques to wash away his wearieness while Ventress's stamina by this point is going to be suffering.
Again, I'd disagree here. Causing avalanches, causing stalagmites to collapse, causing an explosion with her force blast and just generally being able to employ telekinesis that pushes back foes like Kenobi and Anakin is perhaps more impressive then Ahsoka's own feat.
I'm talking about her curved hilt which is noted to give more options to the wielder in the DT trilogy.
Well. Ahsoka herself, Kanan, Karbin and Luke. Pretty much all the lightsaber wielding opponents he's faced so far actually.
Maul is aged and noted as being weaker then his former self. While I'm sure he's grown in knowledge and perhaps even power I'd say it's pretty likely that his skills and physicals have diminished if not greatly by a good amount. Considering Ventress has contended with Grievous's strength I wouldn't say that, considering that Ventress has kept up with and beaten the opponents I mentioned I wouldn't say Ahsoka has greater greater speed either. Finally in regards to stamina she has held her own against Savage and Maul along with Kenobi for a little over two and half minutes. She's never shown to have problems with her stamina either so I don't really see how it's relevant.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Support the notion that Mace needed every ounce of skill to defeat Ventress. 🙂
Ventress being able to defeat Grievous on a DS nexus when Mace was unable to defeat a hindered Grievous.
Pre Prime Ventress < Mace =< Grievous < Prime Amped Ventress.
In regards to ability in lightsaber combat.