Homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973

Question: How is this such a major issue? I mean, why is it covered by the media more then, say, the plight of native americans?

I'm not looking to judge the issue one way or another, I simply want to know why "this" issue is so successful, vs other issues that affect some 1% minority of the population, of which they're many.

The theories I've heard to date: A combination of the aids scare forcing lgbt to organize is what started it. And the financial success of a small percentage of this minority is what's driving it now (In other words, enough gays are rich folks, and everybody knows the rich have influence while the poor have almost none).

There's a related argument that gay rights is now a front for upper middle class whites, and black lesbian women and such get left in the cold, but I don't want to muddy the waters..

No, please do muddy the waters. Because that is exactly right. Compounding that it is white people it is also the fact that anyone can and often does have gay relatives or gay friends in their social circles, which is often the best way for people to change their mind on these issues due to sympathy and second hand experiences.

They're Whitney and bitchy and don't understand how gross they are.

Mental illness is bullshit.

Homosexuality is as beneficial as every other disease, plague or otherwise. Malaria, for example.

Transgendered people are homos who want even more attention. They should kill themselves.

Xyz, by and large transgender people DO kill themselves, if the staggeringly high suicide rates for this group are to be believed.

Far from being given facetious advice of the sort in your preceding post, they should rather be told to fight for lives worth TRULY living; should be told to stop mindlessly following the propaganda of the death culture of current mainstream media.

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Your first statement, though crudely worded, warrants attention.
It relates to the theme and title of this thread more directly than most probably realize.

I would suggest to you and a few others to watch a few moments of the following video. This is Stephan Molyneux making a serious examination of the phenomenon of what we call mental illness.

Specifically, Molyneux outlines the current theory of mental illness, which is as follows:

- Mental illness is a disease or deficiency caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain that is corrected by psychiatric drugs.
- Psychiatrists can accurately diagnose mental illness, and have safe and effective treatment for it.
- Psychiatry is considered a valid medical specialty, like cardiology, and the claims of the movement are based on scientific research.

... and Molyneux then proceeds to dismantle most of those arguments one by one.

He essentially gives the research-backed PROFESSIONAL version of your stance.

Definitely worth some serious viewing:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eOScYBwMyAA

Originally posted by cdtm
Question: How is this such a major issue? I mean, why is it covered by the media more then, say, the plight of native americans?

Homosexuality or transgenders? If you mean the latter I agree it shouldn't be a major issue, when we get upset because boys have to pee in the boys bathroom there is a problem. Of course being gay shouldn't be a problem either.

I have no problem covering the "plight" of native americans. As long as they do not forget to mention the fact that native americans could be just as ruthless as the mean white people who came here and stole their land. For some reason that part tends to usually get left out.

There's a related argument that gay rights is now a front for upper middle class whites, and black lesbian women and such get left in the cold, but I don't want to muddy the waters..

It seems more like everyone who isn't upper middle class gets left out in the cold, not just lesbian black women.

Originally posted by Surtur

I have no problem covering the "plight" of native americans. As long as they do not forget to mention the fact that native americans could be just as ruthless as the mean white people who came here and stole their land. For some reason that part tends to usually get left out.

Captain Whitewash at it again.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
facepalm

Captain Whitewash at it again.

Nope not whitewash, I never said we didn't do anything wrong.

Anyways, do you have anything else to add or did you show up just to insult me? Which of course is shit that is supposed to be frowned upon here. I wonder if anything will be said to you? Don't worry, I never report people.

Which if you're going to show up just to hurl insults then put some effort in, don't be lazy.

Since to me "white washing" is ignoring the terrible shit white people did. Which nobody was doing. On top of that, it's wrong to ignore the terrible things done by *any* race.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Xyz, by and large transgender people DO kill themselves, if the staggeringly high suicide rates for this group are to be believed.

Far from being given facetious advice of the sort in your preceding post, they should rather be told to fight for lives worth TRULY living; should be told to stop mindlessly following the propaganda of the death culture of current mainstream media.

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Your first statement, though crudely worded, warrants attention.
It relates to the theme and title of this thread more directly than most probably realize.

I would suggest to you and a few others to watch a few moments of the following video. This is Stephan Molyneux making a serious examination of the phenomenon of what we call mental illness.

Specifically, Molyneux outlines the current theory of mental illness, which is as follows:

- Mental illness is a disease or deficiency caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain that is corrected by psychiatric drugs.
- Psychiatrists can accurately diagnose mental illness, and have safe and effective treatment for it.
- Psychiatry is considered a valid medical specialty, like cardiology, and the claims of the movement are based on scientific research.

... and Molyneux then proceeds to [b]dismantle most of those arguments one by one.

He essentially gives the research-backed PROFESSIONAL version of your stance.

Definitely worth some serious viewing:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eOScYBwMyAA [/B]

Psychiatry has never been accurate though.

And I'm glad transgender people commit suicide.

Don't worry he's just a self hating liberal.
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On topic, it is most definitely a mental illness but the same could also be said for overeating and staying up late and sleeping during the day.

As long as we don't perpetuate to children that it is a "normal" aspect, I have no issue with any adults sexual desires (assuming they are consensual)

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I agree with this.

I don't think we should be glad when anyone innocent commits suicide. I just don't think the taxpayers should be paying for sex changes.

I also agree it would technically be a lie to teach children that homosexuality is "normal". Instead just teach them homosexuality isn't evil or a sin.

I was legitimately taught as a child that it was essentially evil. Though I went to catholic schools not public schools, but that kind of stuff shouldn't be taught anywhere.

I believe in evolution.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think we should be glad when anyone innocent commits suicide. I just don't think the taxpayers should be paying for sex changes.

I also agree it would technically be a lie to teach children that homosexuality is "normal". Instead just teach them homosexuality isn't evil or a sin.

I was legitimately taught as a child that it was essentially evil. Though I went to catholic schools not public schools, but that kind of stuff shouldn't be taught anywhere.

Post-op is something like 11x the national average

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Suicide rates are higher among post-op than pre-op.

Post-op is something like 11x the national average

Yep, and people try to say that can be blamed all on the stigma they face post operation.

Which to me I think the stigma certainly doesn't help, but I don't think it creates the suicidal feelings..it just potentially can make them worse.

No, the hormone shit they're injected and the mutilation of their bodies causes suicide.

It's like someone injecting you with Sudafed and cutting off your nose. People will look at you weird, but that's not why you commit suicide. You commit suicide because you're a ****ing retard.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
stephen molyneux is a douche, but most of what you said is correct.

Psychiatry has never been accurate though.

And I'm glad transgender people commit suicide.

Please don't reply to him, he's trolling for attention.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think we should be glad when anyone innocent commits suicide. I just don't think the taxpayers should be paying for sex changes.

I also agree it would technically be a lie to teach children that homosexuality is "normal".

You might be largely in agreement with the following, then:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAU3SPYFsA