Harry Potter and Lord of the Ring verse vs Doomsday

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Can Crucio kill the dead?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"It's killed humans so it can kill something that tanks nukes"

Like saying I can down a glass of water in one go, therefore I could do the same to the ocean

And if you can prove that Crucio can output more pain than being at ground zero of a nuclear bomb, let me know

It kills. If you feel he can resist it then prove it. How much pain do you think a nuke makes someone feel if they get hit by it ?

Not how burden of proof works, mate

Well between megatons of energy, millions of degrees celcius and radiation, yeah, certainly far more lethal than some shitty spell with little impressive feats to it's name

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Not how burden of proof works, mate

Well between megatons of energy, millions of degrees celcius and radiation, yeah, certainly far more lethal than some shitty spell with little impressive feats to it's name

Not how the spell works. It is completely different. You claimed a nuke would make someone feel greater pain so prove it. You made the claim. Crucio and Avada Kedavra work unless you prove it can be resisted. That's how debating works.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not how the spell works. It is completely different. You claimed a nuke would make someone feel greater pain so prove it. You made the claim. Crucio and Avada Kedavra work unless you prove it can be resisted. That's how debating works.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Cruciatus_Curse

"Once cast, there is no spell that can defend against the Cruciatus Curse.[7] However, there are still evasive options available against it. The spell can be dodged by hiding behind a solid object, and a particularly strong-willed wizard can merely resist the pain until the spell is lifted (though, as noted above, prolonged exposure can cause permanent mental damage). Another option is to interrupt the caster before they can finish speaking the incantation, as Severus Snape did to great effect against Harry Potter in 1997 by using Legilimency to anticipate the spells he would use."

Also LOL @ you. Harry Potter survived the AK twice and wrecked Voldemort both times 😂

Doomsday would have his savage way with the entire HP and LoTR universe

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not how the spell works.

"Lawl AK kills Doomsday"
"Prove it"
"Prove it can't"

Is not how vs debating works

It is completely different. You claimed a nuke would make someone feel greater pain so prove it. You made the claim. Crucio and Avada Kedavra work unless you prove it can be resisted. That's how debating works.

If you can show me any impressive feats that suggests that some spell can cause more pain than megatons of pressure, temperatures hotter than the sun's core and intense radiation, I'd be thrilled

Originally posted by Arachnid1
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Cruciatus_Curse

"Once cast, there is no spell that can defend against the Cruciatus Curse.[7] However, there are still evasive options available against it. The spell can be dodged by hiding behind a solid object, and a particularly strong-willed wizard can merely resist the pain until the spell is lifted (though, as noted above, prolonged exposure can cause permanent mental damage). Another option is to interrupt the caster before they can finish speaking the incantation, as Severus Snape did to great effect against Harry Potter in 1997 by using Legilimency to anticipate the spells he would use."

Also LOL @ you. Harry Potter survived the AK twice and wrecked Voldemort both times 😂

Doomsday would have his savage way with the entire HP and LoTR universe

There are magical defenses that can be used but can Doomsday use them. Nahhhhhh.

Voldemort wins with a spell or so. Films only, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There are magical defenses that can be used but can Doomsday use them. Nahhhhhh.

Voldemort wins with a spell or so. Films only, boy.

Not just magical defenses. You can dodge behind objects and the strong willed can fight through it. Voldemort is weak. Dumbledore>>>>Harry>>>>Voldemort

Prove an AK can kill Doomsday when its literally his power to survive. You say this:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Apples and oranges. It's function is to cause pain.
But the function of the nukes was to kill and atomize Doomsday. It failed, so it stands to reason that something significantly weaker like an AK or crucio fails too.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Voldemort is weak. Dumbledore>>>>Harry>>>>Voldemort

Prove an AK can kill Doomsday when its literally his power to survive. You say this:

But the function of the nukes was to kill and atomize Doomsday. It failed, so it stands to reason that something significantly weaker like an AK or crucio fails too.

No, he isn't. He dominated Albus despite Albus wielding the most powerful wand in existence. Voldemort also casually defeated Harry in a duel.

By sheer power. The function of a nuke isn't to kill Doomsday. The function of the kill spell is to magically bring about death.

Cap can jump out of a plane and survive despite how powerful that is he can't resist someone smothering his nose and mouth. Apples and oranges. Greater attacks don't mean he can resist other attacks which would deprive him of oxygen. Think you ape.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The function of a nuke isn't to kill Doomsday.
So they sent the nuke into space for a light show? Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

You've destroyed your own argument.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
So they sent the nuke into space for a light show? Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

You've destroyed your own argument.

Nukes weren't created with the sole purpose of killing doomsday. It is a powerful weapon they chose to use against him. Completely different than a magical spell specifically designed to kill.

You ignored the rest of my post. Coward.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nukes weren't created with the sole purpose of killing doomsday. It is a powerful weapon they chose to use against him. Completely different than a magical spell specifically designed to kill.

You ignored the rest of my post. Coward.

Avada Kedavra wasn't created with the sole purpose of killing doomsday. It is a powerful spell they chose to use against him. Completely different than a nuclear weapon specifically designed to kill.

Because the rest of the post is also wrong. Stay mad 😉

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Avada Kedavra wasn't created with the sole purpose of killing doomsday. It is a powerful spell they chose to use against him. Completely different than a nuclear weapon specifically designed to kill.

Because the rest of the post is also wrong. Stay mad 😉

It is intended to kill. That's its specific function. Completely different than a nuke.

Debating is proving it not avoiding because you can't rebut it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is intended to kill. That's its specific function. Completely different than a nuke.

Debating is proving it not avoiding because you can't rebut it.

Nukes are weapons. Weapons are made to kill. Why are you so opinionated over a fact? Facts aren't subject to opinion.

Debating is definitely proving. You have yet to prove an AK or crucio can work on doomsday. Take your own advice.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"Lawl AK kills Doomsday"
"Prove it"
"Prove it can't"

Is not how vs debating works

If you can show me any impressive feats that suggests that some spell can cause more pain than megatons of pressure, temperatures hotter than the sun's core and intense radiation, I'd be thrilled

I can prove the spell works if you feel it can't then prove it.

So you believe the sun would cause intense pain ? You'd be dead before you felt anything you nitwit. Quit saying things you cannot prove.

Prove Doomsday can resist the Crucio or Ak.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Nukes are weapons. Weapons are made to kill. Why are you so opinionated over a fact? Facts aren't subject to opinion.

Debating is definitely proving. You have yet to prove an AK or crucio can work on doomsday. Take your own advice.

So are bullets but they don't always kill either. Ak does unless you can resist or have magical protection. Prove it.

You need to prove he can resist since the spells have already been proven to work.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So are bullets but they don't always kill either. Ak does unless you can resist or have magical protection. Prove it.

You need to prove he can resist since the spells have already been proven to work.

So you're saying bullets=Nuke? A+ debating there, kid.

Nope, you need to prove it would work on Doomsday. He's more powerful than anything its ever worked on, and its literally his super power to survive.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
So you're saying bullets=Nuke? A+ debating there, kid.

Nope, you need to prove it would work on Doomsday. He's more powerful than anything its ever worked on, and its literally his super power to survive.

You said weapons so I referenced weapon. You used the word weapons so now you try to distance yourself from a weapon.

Apples and oranges. Nukes destroy bodies and anything it hits unless strong enough. Does Crucio ? Does Ak ? Do you know what magic is ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said weapons so I referenced weapon. You used the word weapons so now you try to distance yourself from a weapon.

Apples and oranges. Nukes destroy bodies and anything it hits unless strong enough. Does Crucio ? Does Ak ? Do you know what magic is ?

In other words, you think a knife is also = Nuke since its a weapon. smh @ middle school dropouts like you

Crucio and AK have never gone up against anything of note, so no they don't. They've never demonstrated more killing power than a Nuke at ground zero, and Doomsday tanked the shit out of that. Once again, you need to prove AK >>>>> a nuke

Originally posted by Arachnid1
In other words, you think a knife is also = Nuke since its a weapon. smh @ middle school dropouts like you

Crucio and AK have never gone up against anything of note, so no they don't. They've never demonstrated more killing power than a Nuke at ground zero, and Doomsday tanked the shit out of that. Once again, you need to prove AK >>>>> a nuke

I never said a knife or gun equals the destructive power of a nuke. I said weapons made to kill aren't as automatic as Ak.

Then prove he can resist the spells which are different than a nuke. Cap has survived more powerful attacks but can't survive without oxygen. Thus based off your claims smothering can't harm him since it's less powerful than what he has survived. Your logic like your breath is atrocious.