Petition made to boot Snyder

Started by -Pr-3 pages

That sounds a tad like a strawman, tbh. I wrote two to three lines. A broad outline of the character, and you're applying it to specifics.

I don't want Reeve Superman. At all.

Yep, I don't want Reevesman. But I do want Superman. Whatever we got in BvS sure wasn't superman.

I dont know if this is the right place to post this but...

Holy shit some people around the web on various sites are dong heavy damage control on BvS. Like posting paragraph upon paragraph explaining all the deeper meanings and workings of this movie. They are trying to convince everyone that there is tons of inner meaning that flew over everyone head. And if "we" the audience wernt so shallow and dumb we would have enjoyed this masterpiece of a movie.

This reminds me of those paintings those hipster edgy artists make.
They take a white canvas then lets say they put paint on his cat , blind folds himself and uses the cat as a paint brush.
The painting looks like a random mess.
But art enthusiasts will stare at it for a while and say it symbolizes inner struggle and the artists soul reaching a new horizon, shedding away his inner demons, etc.

When in fact its just some stupid ****ing brush strokes done with a cat while the idiot was on meth or some shit.

This is exactly what this type of BvS damage control signifies.
The only deep concepts Snyder knows is forcing religions undertones in whatever he can.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yep, I don't want Reevesman. But I do want Superman. Whatever we got in BvS sure wasn't superman.

👆

Originally posted by -Pr-
That sounds a tad like a strawman, tbh. I wrote two to three lines. A broad outline of the character, and you're applying it to specifics.

I don't want Reeve Superman. At all.

Then elaborate and enlighten me. As you said I only have what you wrote to go on and it sounded a lot like Reeveman to me. Going back and reading the thread it seems you don't really hate Snyder and the job he has done, you just believe that there is room for improvement. I plan on seeing all of these films so I want them all to be as good as they possibly can be, and I certainly do not believe the job they have done is beyond reproach.

This is an open invitation to anyone in the thread by the way. I am curious to hear how you would get Superman "right". Let BvS be the starting point. It is 16 months after Metropolis, what does your boy do on the daily?

I really liked Morrison's Superman in the nu52. He wasn't a boy-scout, was ruthless, and rather bad ass but was still very heroic and very "Superman".

The only Superman-centric stories I have read are Superman: Earth One volumes 1-3 and Kingdom Come. MoS was heavily influenced by Earth One and KC Supes operated in shades of gray. Both excellent stories, and both Supermen we're pretty far from how I usually hear detractors of Cavillman wanting the character to be portrayed.

KC's Superman is very different than Cavillman. But I do love KC Superman, wouldn't mind seeing more influence from him. Anyway, my problem with Cavillman is he's just so damn bland. I also want Superman to enjoy "super heroing" and to smile from time to time.

An idealistic and positive Superman who's also vulnerable and somewhat naive

Vs.

A fiercely intelligent and ruthless Batman who's righteous but somewhat jaded

THOSE are the characterizations most people would love to see IMO because the interplay and interactions between them would be fascinating

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yep, I don't want Reevesman. But I do want Superman. Whatever we got in BvS sure wasn't superman.

that's the superman we needed not the one we deserve 😛

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I disagree in regards to TIH and IM1. Also, Marvel is moving in a more serious tone thankfully, now that Whedon is gone.

Russos are bringing that perfect mix of Dark and Light. DC and Marvel should both look at the Russos and try to accomplish that kind of tone. Main reason I'm super stoked for Civil War.

Whedon's Avengers is better than any Phase 2 movie, including Winter Soldier oand GOTG.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I dont know if this is the right place to post this but...

Holy shit some people around the web on various sites are dong heavy damage control on BvS. Like posting paragraph upon paragraph explaining all the deeper meanings and workings of this movie. They are trying to convince everyone that there is tons of inner meaning that flew over everyone head. And if "we" the audience wernt so shallow and dumb we would have enjoyed this masterpiece of a movie.

This reminds me of those paintings those hipster edgy artists make.
They take a white canvas then lets say they put paint on his cat , blind folds himself and uses the cat as a paint brush.
The painting looks like a random mess.
But art enthusiasts will stare at it for a while and say it symbolizes inner struggle and the artists soul reaching a new horizon, shedding away his inner demons, etc.

When in fact its just some stupid ****ing brush strokes done with a cat while the idiot was on meth or some shit.

This is exactly what this type of BvS damage control signifies.
The only deep concepts Snyder knows is forcing religions undertones in whatever he can.

People who constantly need to prove how "mature" and "deep" they are are the most juvenile ones of all. BvS had no depth whatsoever.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Whedon's Avengers is better than any Phase 2 movie, including Winter Soldier oand GOTG.
While I don't agree with your opinion, Avengers 1 is a great movie. I'd still take Winter Soldier over it though. Just my taste, I enjoy a little less humor and a little more seriousness.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
While I don't agree with your opinion, Avengers 1 is a great movie. I'd still take Winter Soldier over it though. Just my taste, I enjoy a little less humor and a little more seriousness.

Fair enough. We're quibbling over what are both great movies. Winter Soldier was awesome.

I think that universes where some parts are silly or whimsical like Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy and other parts are more grounded like WS or the Netflix shows make for a more complex universe than one that is grimdark all the time like the DC Murderverse.

Well they've apparently already started filming JL, so the petition seems to have failed.

Strange as well given BvS hasn't even hit $800million yet.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well they've apparently already started filming JL, so the petition seems to have failed.

Strange as well given BvS hasn't even hit $800million yet.

You liked it so why do you care ?

Originally posted by Inhuman
I dont know if this is the right place to post this but...

Holy shit some people around the web on various sites are dong heavy damage control on BvS. Like posting paragraph upon paragraph explaining all the deeper meanings and workings of this movie. They are trying to convince everyone that there is tons of inner meaning that flew over everyone head. And if "we" the audience wernt so shallow and dumb we would have enjoyed this masterpiece of a movie.

This reminds me of those paintings those hipster edgy artists make.
They take a white canvas then lets say they put paint on his cat , blind folds himself and uses the cat as a paint brush.
The painting looks like a random mess.
But art enthusiasts will stare at it for a while and say it symbolizes inner struggle and the artists soul reaching a new horizon, shedding away his inner demons, etc.

When in fact its just some stupid ****ing brush strokes done with a cat while the idiot was on meth or some shit.

This is exactly what this type of BvS damage control signifies.
The only deep concepts Snyder knows is forcing religions undertones in whatever he can.

Like this you mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IdckKLhIN-E
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=32628911

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Like this you mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IdckKLhIN-E
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=32628911

Yes. Especially in forums and blogs.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well they've apparently already started filming JL, so the petition seems to have failed.

Strange as well given BvS hasn't even hit $800million yet.

well they don't wanna look even more foolish right now... I won't be at all surprised if they fire Hack after the numbers for Civil War are known...

anyways what about Greg Berlanti being there "Feige"?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker

anyways what about Greg Berlanti being there "Feige"?

Is that in the cards?