Gideon runs the debating gauntlet

Started by The Ellimist6 pages

Gideon runs the debating gauntlet

Judged by an omniscient, impartial AI.

How far does he get?

Warm up:

1. Janus
2. SW_Legend
3. Nebaris
4. Jensaarai
5. Sinious

Rounds:

6. Carthage
7. Lord Lucien
8. Nai
9. Silver5871 or whatever his name is
10. Wolfninjajedi

Bosses:

11. Advent
12. The Tempest
13. Michael Wong
14. Master Han
15. Ben Sprung-Keyser

Bonus round: Gideon gets Neph

Hard paineful stop at Wolf. 🙂

Stops at the Tempest. Dunno why, I just have this feeling about it. 😐

Also no nexus feats for Gideon.

For real though he loses to Janus. As he always did.

O rilly? How many posters would back Ragnos against DE Palpatine in 2016? 😖hifty:

(For real though, every time I stumble upon a pre 2007 thread, I have to cringe through Janus's palpable idiocy. At least nebaris is eloquent.)

Loses to Tempest in round one.

In the bonus round stops at whoever the **** Janus is tho.

😆 So Neph makes Gideon weaker?

Only at the knees.

Anyhow, he might stop at Advent or Tempest. Hard stop at Wong. Dirty, dirty evisceration at Master Han.

There's literally no way he gets past Nai. That man isn't human.

Meh, Nai strikes me as someone whose eloquence makes him sound much smarter than he actually is. Like nebaris, except obviously far greater.

The tempest is at his prime now, he's a far more superior debater than Gideon ever was. Stops there.

I'm not sure about that. Gideon may had already reached his full potential; there comes a certain point when the marginal gains in experience are outweighed by decreasing fluid intelligence/passion/energy/relevance. Not sure exactly where it is for The Shadow.

https://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=119010

For all of my life, I have demonstrated narcissistic and egocentric traits, and this has typically manifested itself when I debate with other people. My family enjoys exchanging stories about how, when I was five- or six- or seven-years-old, I would constantly ask questions and debate with either my parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles -- not necessarily about anything intellectually stimulating (I have been considered "gifted" all throughout my educational career, though I don't think I'm regarded as anything approaching "genius" or "prodigy"😉 -- but about anything. And, a common fact for those who know me seems to be that I am undeniably stubborn and shackled by the strengths of my so-called convictions; by that, I mean, when I absolutely -- positively -- believe that I am right, and I am debating, there is no middle ground, and I have to convince the opposition that I am right. Now, obviously, this has not always worked; I've either been proven to be wrong, or people still refuse to accept what I consider to be an obvious truth. We could go on and on about where I believe this problematic trait derived itself from, but I didn't make this thread with the intent to simply vent on my frustration.

Since October 18th, 2005 (I was 14-years-old), I have been a member of KMC forums. For those three years, I debated in the Star Wars versus section. Admittedly, I have always been a fan of the Emperor since the very first day I watched the movies (for me, the key to a good sci-fi, drama, or action movie is a worthy villain), and so when I arrived, I was in for a surprise: Palpatine was considered an impossibly weak Sith Lord who accomplished his considerable goals through "luck" and by being the "benefactor of circumstance". So, I fought and fought and fought for three years, arguing to the contrary against a cabal of highly intelligent and much older users who were nonetheless gripped by unbelievable bias and dogma (they made tremendous arguments that Dooku, even, was superior to Darth Sidious).

Now, eventually, we managed to convince the rest of the forum about Palpatine's status as the most powerful Sith Lord and this cabal abdicated the forums entirely. But this new user, known as Nebaris (it was his first username) has been repeatedly been banned for being a sock after his original account was removed for rule breaking. Now, he's clearly very intelligent, but has taken the role of "devil's advocate" to a new extreme. We've all tried and tried for the past year to refute his constant assertions that Palpatine is actually a weak Sith Lord. The most recent thread is this (where he has only posted for the last few pages, the rest were posts made by the original cabal -- I am the user Gideon):

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/show ... st10207759

...Basically, to cut it short, I've thrown everything I can at him and he attempts to argue it. Thus back to my original problem: I feel that I've failed somehow, and by not continuing to argue it, by "agreeing to disagree" (the failed tactic I tried here), I am conceding the argument itself, when I know I'm right. But I just lack the ambition, I guess, to argue it.

Whew. So... what should I do (in both this problem and in the obvious mentality I have)?

Oh my...oh my god...this revelation...HOLY SHIT I'M DYING!!!!!!!!!!!

The Shadow severs.

lmfao

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I'm not sure about that. Gideon may had already reached his full potential; there comes a certain point when the marginal gains in experience are outweighed by decreasing fluid intelligence/passion/energy/relevance. Not sure exactly where it is for The Shadow.

^^ apparently not, seeing as how Gideon would only be 24-25 now, .ie around the time fluid intelligent peaks. But it's also possible that he's drifted away from the activity, ceding finally that The Ellimist has overtaken his specter.

Very few are not, particularly younglings like yourself. The olden days of the arena featured many contestants.

Lucien was luminous, a gilded idol, a swirl of eloquence for a meek whisper of intelligence.

Advent was the night, a sky consumed by the illuminated suns, cascading in the luminous brilliance of her tongue.

And then there was Gideon, of course: he was beyond logic. His posts showed nothing of what might have been reasoned within. Though seen with the very essence of analysis, Gideon was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect intellect. Genius beyond measure. A black hole of human knowledge.

I always found him to be slightly flaccid myself.