Understanding Exar Kun's spirit.

I dunno. F*cking up Luke is a much more impressive combat feat than anything Fraudiate has done.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm going to need a reason to believe that. Because, as far as I know. the SWTOR Encyclopedia was not written by an omniscient source.

Publisher's summary:

Since its release in 2011, the massively multiplayer online role playing game Star Wars: The Old Republic has captivated thousands of gamers and Star Wars fans alike. Now comes the ultimate in-depth guide to the turbulent and fascinating world featured in the game—The Old Republic. Created in full collaboration with LucasArts, this in-depth companion covers the spectrum of characters, weapons, vehicles, events, and planets of Star Wars : The Old Republic. More than just an encyclopedia, it is the ultimate guided tour of the dangerous and mysterious universe found in a galaxy far, far away.

Your doubts are misplaced.

Valkorion is promoted as the most powerful Force-user in virtually every TOR related content that encompasses Exar Kun and other ancient Sith.

Here is another:

The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Codex Entry titled "The Emperor's Fallen Jedi (Knight)."😉

Originally posted by ares834

Spoiler:
Just to be clear, I don't actually think Kun > Vitiate. BUt if you have a source that we can take with 100% of being true then please, post it.

LeGenD, he's merely testing the infallibility of the notion that Valkorion is supreme, in terms of accolades. Your job is to provide an absolute statement that he is.

Originally posted by AncientPower
LeGenD, he's merely testing the infallibility of the notion that Valkorion is supreme, in terms of accolades. Your job is to provide an absolute statement that he is.

1. A novel
2. A reference guide
3. A codex entry

I don't know what kind of sources are satisfactory for you and him.

Spoiler:
I find the irony of SW_Legend's reliance on sourcebook declarations to be quite amusing given his refusal to bend the knee to Sidious.

I'm sorry, none of that signifies the author is "omniscient" or 100% correct. In fact, we know the author isn't omniscient considering how he calls the future "uncertain" or how he asks "can such relentless evil truly die?"

The codex entry is more promising however. But all it signifies is that Vitiate is the "most dominating Force-user" not necessary the most powerful. Especially, since the quote comes from a codex entry about him corrupting and dominating others.

Also, I love how you claim you know what I think. The arrogance.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm sorry, none of that signifies the author is "omniscient" or 100% correct. In fact, we know the author isn't omniscient considering how he calls the future "uncertain" or how he asks "can such relentless evil truly die?"

Definitive: (of a conclusion or agreement) done or reached decisively and with authority.

You tell me how it is not a reliable source?

Originally posted by ares834
Also, I love how you claim you know what I think. The arrogance.

Originally posted by The Ellimist

Spoiler:
I find the irony of SW_Legend's reliance on sourcebook declarations to be quite amusing given his refusal to bend the knee to Sidious.

I do not perceive Valkorion as a Sith. Therefore, Palpatine's position as the most powerful Sith in galactic history fits in my worldview.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
[B]Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia is officially marketed as "the definitive guide to the epic conflict."

Definitive: (of a conclusion or agreement) done or reached decisively and with authority.

You tell me how it is not a reliable source?[/B]

Indeed, it is the best guide for TOR and is reliable. That doesn't mean it is a 100% factual though. Especially since the character writing the book claims ignorance from time to time.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your intent is clear.

And that is?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I do not perceive Valkorion as a Sith.

Funny. He is called a Sith in the Encyclopedia you cling so desperately too.

Originally posted by ares834
Indeed, it is the best guide for TOR and is reliable.

Originally posted by ares834
That doesn't mean it is a 100% factual though. Especially since the character writing the book claims ignorance from time to time.

Originally posted by ares834
And that is?

Originally posted by ares834
Funny. He is called a Sith in the Encyclopedia you cling so desperately too.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
TOR Encyclopedia is relevant for the timeline of events up to 3640 BBY.

So it's not written by an omniscient character but rather a fallible one. Glad you agree.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
1. Exar Kun > Vitiate
2. Vitiate is a weakling

Cute, but no. My original post was a joke as evident by the smiley. And I'm not sure how 2 follows 1...

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate used to be the Sith Emperor but he is no longer one. He ditched the Sith for a new faction.

Except he was truthfully working for the Eternal Empire at the time as that was his real project. So the author was wrong or Valk is a Sith.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I have clarified my stance in this regard.

I do not perceive Valkorion as a Sith. Therefore, Palpatine's position as the most powerful Sith in galactic history fits in my worldview.

So you concede that Palpatine > the Sith Emperor?

Originally posted by ares834
Except he was truthfully working for the Eternal Empire at the time as that was his real project. So the author was wrong or Valk is a Sith.

Ooh, good point. 👆

This "omniscient" in universe source only needs to be accurate for the things I agree with.

What does any of this have to do with the OP?

I was flipping through the JAS earlier and found this:

I honestly think you're shortchanging Kyp's role in all this, AP.

Yeah, I've brought up with quote in discussions with AP innumerable times. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
Except he was truthfully working for the Eternal Empire at the time as that was his real project. So the author was wrong or Valk is a Sith.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah, I've brought up with quote in discussions with AP innumerable times. 👆

did you bring this up in the thread already? mmm

I did bring it up in my OP:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15708422#post15708422