Originally posted by ILSGoodness, you're an intelligent person, it's not hard to work out.
Lmao, when Adi Gallia is on the backfoot to Savage she's clearly losing, but when Kenobi in mirroring fashion backs off from Maul he's seeking a tactical advantage. Kys with these double standards.
The only point at which Maul could be construed as driving Kenobi back is from 0:14-17 mark, a literal 3 seconds period of fighting in which Kenobi retreats across uneven terrain.
Other than that, yes, Kenobi leaping away when he was a sheer drop behind him is called a tactical retreat, as is leaping to the high ground when backed up against a wall.
How does that compare to being consistently driven back over the entirety of the engagement, during which Gallia is literally bending over backwards to evade the strength of her attacker? And are we even going to account for the fact Kenobi is a Soresu user who regularly employs Sokan?
Are you comparing Ahsoka to Maul or Maul to Maul? If Maul to Maul I'd agree, TCW would have slightly better augmentation. If Ahsoka to Maul, no, Maul's just better.Ahsoka and Maul of course. 🙂
And naw, face it, Ahsoka stonewalled him.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZI will contest misjudgements of Ahsoka wherever I see them. 🙂
Stop debating ILS on Maul. It's futile. 🙂
Goodness, you're an intelligent person, it's not hard to work out.Maul and Savage push them to the edge of a cliff, they jump off, Maul bros pursue them, Savage drives back Gallia, it cuts to Maul and Kenobi where the latter is backing up and Maul is pursuing him. Kenobi jumps onto the crashed aircraft, and if you look closely at them from there on out, even when it cuts back to the others, Maul is always the one pressing forward. Kenobi is at the end of the aircraft by the time Gallia is rekt.The only point at which Maul could be construed as driving Kenobi back is from 0:14-17 mark, a literal 3 seconds period of fighting in which Kenobi retreats across uneven terrain.
I get that Soresu is supposed to give ground and shit, but draw the line somewhere.
Anyway, my point is that you can duel someone for what appears to be a long time and still be their clear, definable inferior.
Other than that, yes, Kenobi leaping away when he was a sheer drop behind him is called a tactical retreat, as is leaping to the high ground when backed up against a wall.Lel, Gallia bending backwards only proves she's flexible. Again, the point is, a fight can appear to be close or at least well contested for a while but with a clear victor emerging. Ahsoka ended her fight with Maul prematurely. All we know is that Maul is better than her. I find that agreeable personally.How does that compare to being consistently driven back over the entirety of the engagement, during which Gallia is literally bending over backwards to evade the strength of her attacker? And are we even going to account for the fact Kenobi is a Soresu user who regularly employs Sokan?
Ahsoka and Maul of course. smileNo doubt she did quite well in the face of superior opposition. 😎And naw, face it, Ahsoka stonewalled him.
Originally posted by ILSRight, and there is a difference between Kenobi backing up and Gallia actually being driven back, the former is tactically given ground, the latter is being made to.
Maul and Savage push them to the edge of a cliff, they jump off, Maul bros pursue them, Savage drives back Gallia, it cuts to Maul and Kenobi where the latter is backing up and Maul is pursuing him.
You'll also notice Adi gives ground more consistently than Kenobi in their first bout.
Kenobi jumps onto the crashed aircraft, and if you look closely at them from there on out, even when it cuts back to the others, Maul is always the one pressing forward. Kenobi is at the end of the aircraft by the time Gallia is rekt.Evidently you didn't look closely enough, its only the change in perspective that makes it look that way, in reality he pushes him to the nose of the craft to the middle, a few feet in comparison to like a dozen meters.
I get that Soresu is supposed to give ground and shit, but draw the line somewhere.And my point is that outside of extenuating circustances, there exists no duel I can think of where the victor hasn't been clear after at least a minute of fighting, Ahsoka and Maul fought for two, and the one you've cited lasted half that time.Anyway, my point is that you can duel someone for what appears to be a long time and still be their clear, definable inferior.
This line of reasoning stretches only so far.
Lel, Gallia bending backwards only proves she's flexible.It proves she can't handle is strength, so is resorting to evasion at the expense of giving more ground and leaving herself exposed. Bearing in mind she wields Form V of all styles, which this is completely uncharacteristic of.
Again, the point is, a fight can appear to be close or at least well contested for a while but with a clear victor emerging. Ahsoka ended her fight with Maul prematurely. All we know is that Maul is better than her. I find that agreeable personally.Uh-huh, and if we are going to talk about drawing lines, you need to define "a while." Two minutes, 6 minutes? If they'd been interrupted after an hour would that still have been "premature"?
And sure, and I'm hypothesizing as to what extent. Which is quite relevant to a discussing concerning which incarnations of Maul she could defeat.