Ocean Master (DCnU) vs Namor

Started by Surtur5 pages

What is being said is that breaking out of the bands of Cyttorak is not akin to besting Cyttorak.

In other words it's like saying someone can defeat Cyttorak because they defeated Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Genii96
Um,namor broke the bands by....breaking them,I don't understand what you are trying to insinuate

I'm insinuating that Namor breaking out of them is not proof of his immunity to magic, nor is it proof that his strength is greater than Cytorrak.

Hell, I'm not even insinuating it, I'm flat out stating it.

Basically in Marvel there are a variety of magical beings whom you can tap into a bit of their power for certain spells, but the spells don't represent the sum total of that entities power..unless the entity itself is casting it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm insinuating that Namor breaking out of them is not proof of his immunity to magic, nor is it proof that his strength is greater than Cytorrak.

Hell, I'm not even insinuating it, I'm flat out stating it.

What the hell? Who said he is immune? And how does that mean he is stronger than cytorrak? Quit making things up

Page 1 of this thread, perhaps I over egged it..but. SOMEONE said him breaking out was proof of his magic resistance, rather than immunity.

I am how flat out stating that him breaking out does not imply resistance to magic.

I was perhaps confused by the earlier thread, when Black Adam was in the thread.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Question. Did OM use the waster prison to hold and subdue Aquaman? Did he take AM out with the lighting? Cause if so, then he beats Namor. Shiit. Hed beat most ppl.

All he did with water to Aquaman was push him back with it so it shows he has enough force with his hydrokinesis to do that to Aquaman.

He kod Superman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman then sent them to the Trench via water vortexes I guess.

His sky lightning seemed to change throughout the event though.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
All he did with water to Aquaman was push him back with it so it shows he has enough force with his hydrokinesis to do that to Aquaman.

He kod Superman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman then sent them to the Trench via water vortexes I guess.

His sky lightning seemed to change throughout the event though.

Kod Supes, WW and Aquaman with what? Punches? Water attacks?

Either way, if he solod all 3, then why is this even a thread?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Kod Supes, WW and Aquaman with what? Punches? Water attacks?

Either way, if he solod all 3, then why is this even a thread?

He used lightning to KO Superman Wonder Woman and Aquaman. He used Vortexes to send/BFR them to the trench.

I didn't make the match

The final fight between him and Aquaman seems a bit off. They were battling, and OM seemed not to used this lightning nor water vortex again? AM damaged his helmet with mere punching. Its also stated that that if OM is separated from his trident, he loses significant power.

My question is where was all the magic and lighting in the final battle between the two? Anyone have the books? Im too lazy to search them online.

Namor STARTS fights with Hulk. Who does that?

Originally posted by jrodslam
The final fight between him and Aquaman seems a bit off. They were battling, and OM seemed not to used this lightning nor water vortex again? AM damaged his helmet with mere punching. Its also stated that that if OM is separated from his trident, he loses significant power.

My question is where was all the magic and lighting in the final battle between the two? Anyone have the books? Im too lazy to search them online.

His helmet controls the ocean/hydrokinesis and his scepter summons lightning.

I'd attribute the end result being he yielded because his crown was broken, out numbered and maybe possibly his scepter after awhile starts losing vjarge pure speculation on the last point.

Or its just plot same reason Zoom doesn't just blitz kill everyone straight off the bat or Darkseid doesn't spam Omega Beams

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Namor STARTS fights with Hulk. Who does that?

Anyone as Arrogant and Pompous as Namor I'd guess would pick fights with anyone. Wolverine does the same thing

Here's the Cytorrak scene:

His attempt to break free created a PSIONIC backlash - I cannot withstand another such attack.

The COMBINED strength of my physical and astral energies...

RARGH!

So, my reading of the scene:

Strange casts the spell.

Namor fights back.

This causes a psionic backlash, which Strange was not prepared for.

He goes back to reinforce it.

Before he can, Namor takes advantage of Strange's unpreparedness, and breaks free.

Nothing like what this post suggests:

Originally posted by Genii96
What are you talking about?,
Him breaking the bands shows his magic resistance

As for electricity:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here's the Cytorrak scene:

His attempt to break free created a PSIONIC backlash - I cannot withstand another such attack.

The COMBINED strength of my physical and astral energies...

RARGH!

So, my reading of the scene:

Strange casts the spell.

Namor fights back.

This causes a psionic backlash, which Strange was not prepared for.

He goes back to reinforce it.

Before he can, Namor takes advantage of Strange's unpreparedness, and breaks free.

Nothing like what this post suggests:

As for electricity:

Appreciate the scans. What's Namor's limit to absorbing electricity because I'm still to the opinion that absorbing electricity isn't the same as being immune to it. Ironman has absorbed Thor's lightning in a teamwork effort even injuring himself doing so in the first try in a Thor/Ironman comic. I hold it to the idea of an Electric Eel being able to absorb Thor's lightning. I might be wrong here might be completely immune to Lightning itself don't see any examples of him being badly injured by it but I also don't see him taking a large amount of it either like Thor hurling something from the sky or Storm doing so to Namor.

What happened in the previous image before he absorbed the electricity? Has he ever been shown to do the same with Lightning?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here's the Cytorrak scene:

His attempt to break free created a PSIONIC backlash - I cannot withstand another such attack.

The COMBINED strength of my physical and astral energies...

RARGH!

So, my reading of the scene:

Strange casts the spell.

Namor fights back.

This causes a psionic backlash, which Strange was not prepared for.

He goes back to reinforce it.

Before he can, Namor takes advantage of Strange's unpreparedness, and breaks free.

Nothing like what this post suggests:

As for electricity:

It shows a level of magical resistance,not immunity,they don't mean the same thing fyi

You have the scans and still can't see it
Unpreparedness? Lolz
- namor resisted the spell(magical resistance which you deny he has)
- strange is hit with a backlash
- he tries to enter namor's mind,is cast out
- he goes to his body to reinforce it,nowhere did he take his mind off the spell,infact its quite the opposite
- namor once again resists and breaks it
- psionic backlash this time KOs him in his main body

The only thing strange didn't expext was namor's magical resistance,psionic backlashes were as a result of him resisting the spell,and then breaking it. Trying to play this down won't work, he also feats against khan

Originally posted by Genii96
It shows a level of magical resistance,not immunity,they don't mean the same thing fyi

You have the scans and still can't see it
Unpreparedness? Lolz
- namor resisted the spell(magical resistance which you deny he has)
- strange is hit with a backlash
- he tries to enter namor's mind,is cast out
- he goes to his body to reinforce it,nowhere did he take his mind off the spell,infact its quite the opposite
- namor once again resists and breaks it
- psionic backlash this time KOs him in his main body

The only thing strange didn't expext was namor's magical resistance,psionic backlashes were as a result of him resisting the spell,and then breaking it. Trying to play this down won't work, he also feats against khan

Unpreparedness:
Strange was not prepared for the backlash, and retreated to his body to combine his physical strength with his astral strength.

Namor's resistance shows magical resistance? Pray tell, where does it say he has magical resistance?
Never said he took his mind off the spell, not sure where you got that from?

Not trying to play it down, merely saying that it's not a feat of magical resistance. Put the Khan feat up, that's a better yardstick on which to hang your claim of magical resistance on.

After all, Namor knows better than to think he can resist Strange's enchantments:

After all, his enchantments have worked well on Namor before:

And again:

What caused those backlashes again? Surely it couldn't be resisting the magical spe...oh wait,never mind. Anyone who can resist a spell of that calibre so hard it sends backlashes to the caster will be able to resist one from oceanmaster,if that dosent ger through,then I don't know what else will,it dosent have to be SAID you have magical resistance when you are seen breaking it,more than once,and for goodness sake he also faced khan who magically trapped him,doom and a large portion of an ocean into a bottle,he broke out of that,and ripped his head off despite khan's attempts
http://i.imgur.com/HayIA2B.png

- ofcourse to put this magical lightning to bed
He withstood a continuous surge from nekkrod,and still blitzed and shanked him

http://i.imgur.com/8xrXdzi.png

Originally posted by Genii96
What caused those backlashes again? Surely it couldn't be resisting the magical spe...oh wait,never mind. Anyone who can resist a spell of that calibre so hard it sends backlashes to the caster will be able to resist one from oceanmaster,if that dosent ger through,then I don't know what else will,it dosent have to be SAID you have magical resistance when you are seen breaking it,more than once,and for goodness sake he also faced khan who magically trapped him,doom and a large portion of an ocean into a bottle,he broke out of that,and ripped his head off despite khan's attempts
http://i.imgur.com/HayIA2B.png

- ofcourse to put this magical lightning to bed
He withstood a continuous surge from nekkrod,and still blitzed and shanked him

http://i.imgur.com/8xrXdzi.png

What caused the psionic backlash? His physical struggling against the bands. That's all.

I mean, I've also shown Strange on multiple times using magic on Namor, with no ill-effect. Strange even flat-out calls him out on on one of my examples - stop resisting! You know better!

Obviously,your stance of namor breaking magical bounds round him hving no bearing on his resistance won't subside,so I won't bother to continue
On the other hand,pertaining to this thread his feats against both nekkrod and khan should suffice against magical lightning.

Namor is not known for "magical resistance".