Vader and Dooku run the Nexus Whore gauntlet

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'd wager Sadow and Ragnos would defeat Dooku individually. 🙂

Sadow? Doubtful. He wasn't that impressive in a duel from the, admittedly, little that we saw.

Well, there's always the, " I can solo an army of massassi that solo'd bigger armies of massassi" quote.

What quote was that?

The first Massassi warriors to arrive on the fourth moon of Yavin were intelligent beings. However, their utter devotion to Dark Lord of the Sith Naga Sadow rendered moot their capacity for independent thought. To Sadow, the Massassi were born and bred to build temples in his honor and to defend him until death; nothing more. Perhaps it was for this reason that Sadow's experiments in Sith alchemy mutated his followers into rudimentary brutes. Not all Massassi on Yavin 4 were subjected to Sadow's alchemical manipulations, however. A tribe of clerics who preferred independence over mindless labor turned their backs on their master, quietly venturing out to make a home of their own. These Massassi were pioneers, masters of their own destinies. But if Sadow were to discover their betrayal, there would come a reckoning....

As a small tribe of cultured warriors, the intelligent Massassi thrived in the harsh jungles of Yavin 4. For a time they were content with their lives, but contentment led to restlessness. They longed for more. The uncontested rule and grand temples of Naga Sadow called to their warrior's vanity. A plan emerged and the tribe marched on Sadow's territory. But Sadow, having learned of their independent existence, had anticipated their aggression. His mutated brutes ambushed the would-be usurpers. The sheer magnitude of their blunt-force attack was enough to take down an army. Relying on their wit to improvise and strategize, the smarter Massassi not only protected themselves from the onslaught, but advanced on their goal. For days, the tribe stormed the temples their devolved cousins built. But where was the Dark Lord they had built them for? They had expected Naga Sadow would face them; they'd even accepted the likelihood most or all would fall to their former master. Instead, wave after wave of mutated brutes attacked and succumbed until there were none left to fight and the tribe stood triumphant inside the greatest of Sadow's temples. It was then, at long last, that Naga Sadow appeared....

"You have succeeded," Sadow declared. "You have defied the odds, killed many times more your own, taken all you so desperately coveted. You have fought and bled and sacrificed to arrive at this moment. All that remains is for you to strike me down. But once you have, what would you do then, without your brothers to murder? With nothing left to conquer on this orb?" The Massassi slackened, unable to offer a response. There was none to give. "I commend you on the mass slaughter of your own kind," Sadow intoned as hundreds of Massassi brutes flooded into the temple chamber. "You have seen the pinnacle of your days, the extent of your unchecked avarice. Think of it as the first of two gifts. The other I bestow on you now, though you were meant to have received it along with your fellow Massassi." Over time, the Massassi on Yavin 4 grew in number as they rebuilt that which they destroyed. They would never war amongst themselves again.

-SWTOR codex

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Ok? Nothing there indicates he could solo an army....

The bit where it says the likelihood was that the intelligent massassi tribe would fall to Naga Sadow, despite the fact that they were able to fight waves of alchemically enhanced massassi brutes who were in turn, "enough to take down an army," through their sheer numbers and brutality, (hundreds of massassi brutes flood in at the end).

That was their opinion. And more than that, it doesn’t even indicate them confronting Sadow solo but rather merely confronting him which potentially could include his armies. And when they do confront him, Sadow pretty much says they could kill him.

Quote function is being retarded, so...

1. Nah. the likelihood of falling to Naga Sadow wasn't their opinion, that was the author stating a fact. Them accepting it is their inner thought/opinion.

2. I dunno, the context of them seeking out Naga Sadow specifically and accepting the likelihood of falling to their former master sounds more personal than his armies doing the job alongside him.

3. Yeah. In the same way Sidious pretty much says Luke and Starkiller could kill him.

1. Nope. The author never states that he would defeat them. All he says on that account is "they'd even accepted the likelihood most or all would fall to their former master". Which is their opinion and not the author's.

2. Perhaps. Though it is still merely an interpretation of the text and far from definitive.

3. Not at all. Sidious is goading them to give into the dark side. Sadow is pointing out their folly.

Anyway, it’s a rather ambiguous quote from a very biased source. If anything, I’d say you are better off using Kreia’s “children” quote as that is both far more definitive, from a more trust worthy source, and has Avellone backing it up claiming it to be true.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not really. They have higher endurance, but fall behind in just about everything else. They're Kenobi level at best.

No, they don't.

Some TOR era Jedi Masters have superior showings then Count Dooku and HoT is above all of them.

No, no, they really don't.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No, they don't.

Some TOR era Jedi Masters have superior showings then Count Dooku and HoT is above all of them.

Look what you did, LOOK AT IT!!!

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No, no, they really don't.

Yes, they do.

No, they don't. Learn to powerscale instead of taking everything you see at face value, you know for TOR alone and nothing else.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No, they don't. Learn to powerscale instead of taking everything you see at face value, you know for TOR alone and nothing else.

Satele Shan and Barsen'thor III have demonstrated superior powers then Count Dooku. Even some lesser Jedi have feats on par with those of Count Dooku.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Satele Shan and Barsen'thor III have demonstrated superior powers then Count Dooku. Even some lesser Jedi have feats on par with those of Count Dooku.

Shaak Ti, Maul and Kenobi have superior feats to Valkorion 👆

I'd like to see you try to prove that.

Shaak Ti possessed a planet while a nexus was working against her. Valkorion only possessed a planet with the aid of a nexus.

Shaak>Valk

duh

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Shaak Ti possessed a planet while a nexus was working against her. Valkorion only possessed a planet with the aid of a nexus.

Shaak>Valk

duh

This... will forever be canon.

As soon as Shaak Ti went to Felucia, it became a Light Side nexus. How exactly was it working against her?