Winter Soldier vs 80s Robocop

Originally posted by FrothByte
To claim he can move as fast half the time means you need to prove he actually moved that fast half the time he was on screen. As it is, he only ever did it once in a non-h2h feat.

Tell you what, show me an instance, even one, of Robocop moving at respectable speed during h2h and I'll concede.

As for hurting Robocop, he got hit by the butt of a katana in the face and he already had trouble standing up. WS's roboarm is strong enough to break concrete. Do you really think repeated hits from that arm won't wreck Robocop? A single kick from that robo-ninja put Robocop on his ass. Don't see why WS wouldn't be able to do the same thing.

Do need to. You seem to forget Froth, Arm movement is arm movement. I can conclusively, and without question, prove he can move his arm that fast. Doesn't have to be in h2h combat as you well know. If he can move his arm that fast, he can move his arm that fast. Period end of story. I was simply throwing you a bone and saying he doesn't even have to move at those speeds. He could move at HALF those speeds or even A QUARTER of those speeds and still be able to catch Bucky's punch at some point. Don't mistake me throwing you a bone for any other than me throwing you a bone. By feats Robocop would have no issue catching Bucky's arm. None. He'll curb him when he does.

NO it wouldn't. He's survived by worse. Taking repeated mini gun fire >>>> Than a punch from Bucky. Getting hit by sustained gun fire from 20 cops all unloading on Robocop is >>>> Than a punch from Bucky's arm. Having all those steel beams falling on you >>>>> than a punch from Bucky's arm. Point, Bucky can't hurt him enough before he gets curbed and torn in two

KuRuPT just did the same thing lol. He stands by the bullet catch despite Murphy never moving that fast again, but cans the Robo ninja and katana take downs because Murphy has tanked more.

Has he not moved his arm that fast? Simple question. Second, as I've already shown, he doesn't even need to move his arm Half as fast as the bullet catching feat to catch bucky's arm. He could move at a quarter of those speeds and be just fine. No matter how you figure it, he'll catch Bucky and utterly destroy him

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do need to. You seem to forget Froth, Arm movement is arm movement. I can conclusively, and without question, prove he can move his arm that fast. Doesn't have to be in h2h combat as you well know. If he can move his arm that fast, he can move his arm that fast. Period end of story. I was simply throwing you a bone and saying he doesn't even have to move at those speeds. He could move at HALF those speeds or even A QUARTER of those speeds and still be able to catch Bucky's punch at some point. Don't mistake me throwing you a bone for any other than me throwing you a bone. By feats Robocop would have no issue catching Bucky's arm. None. He'll curb him when he does.

NO it wouldn't. He's survived by worse. Taking repeated mini gun fire >>>> Than a punch from Bucky. Getting hit by sustained gun fire from 20 cops all unloading on Robocop is >>>> Than a punch from Bucky's arm. Having all those steel beams falling on you >>>>> than a punch from Bucky's arm. Point, Bucky can't hurt him enough before he gets curbed and torn in two

Sure thing KT. How do you explain this then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otX6zo2q4z8

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Has he not moved his arm that fast? Simple question. Second, as I've already shown, he doesn't even need to move his arm Half as fast as the bullet catching feat to catch bucky's arm. He could move at a quarter of those speeds and be just fine. No matter how you figure it, he'll catch Bucky and utterly destroy him

You telling me baseball pitchers make fast fighters because they can move their arms fast?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Has he not moved his arm that fast? Simple question. Second, as I've already shown, he doesn't even need to move his arm Half as fast as the bullet catching feat to catch bucky's arm. He could move at a quarter of those speeds and be just fine. No matter how you figure it, he'll catch Bucky and utterly destroy him

Simple question, has he ever moved that fast in a hth fight?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Has he not moved his arm that fast? Simple question. Second, as I've already shown, he doesn't even need to move his arm Half as fast as the bullet catching feat to catch bucky's arm. He could move at a quarter of those speeds and be just fine. No matter how you figure it, he'll catch Bucky and utterly destroy him

So before he catches Bucky, he gets haymakered with a punch that'll put him on his ass right?

Because with your logic...has he not been taken down by far less than mini guns and etc... has he not been shown to be too slow to react to a guy with a sword who is far slower than Bucky?

By this logic we can say that Bucky dodged gun fire, automatic fire at that. Meaning he can move his body faster than a bullet. And that's more impressive because WS can move his ENTIRE body at that speed whereas Robocop can only move his hand at that speed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You telling me baseball pitchers make fast fighters because they can move their arms fast?

LMAO... Do you even know what you're saying here?

Originally posted by KingD19
So before he catches Bucky, he gets haymakered with a punch that'll put him on his ass right?

Because with your logic...has he not been taken down by far less than mini guns and etc... has he not been shown to be too slow to react to a guy with a sword who is far slower than Bucky?

This post makes no sense. He was put down by MORE than what bucky can deliver... so how exactly is Bucky putting him down again? By delivering weaker blows than Robocop was already shown being able to take? Great story bud.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This post makes no sense. He was put down by MORE than what bucky can deliver... so how exactly is Bucky putting him down again? By delivering weaker blows than Robocop was already shown being able to take? Great story bud.

In the video Froth put up showing a ninja looping his fingers and arm off faster than he could react to. Then bopping him on the head and knocking him on his ass.

Bucky is stronger, faster, and more skilled than that guy so by your logic Murphy is doomed lol. You're the only one who ignores your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO... Do you even know what you're saying here?

Yup. Hand speed does not equate to fighting speed. You want proof? Just watch every single fight scene with Robocop and see how slow he moves. Want me to change my mind? Post a single, SINGLE, melee/h2h fight where Robocop shows decent speed.

Bucky gets behind Robocop and donkey punches him in the back of the head until he shuts down. He'd never be able to turn around and hit him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO... Do you even know what you're saying here?

Why are you refusing to post clips that show Robocop's fighting speed? is that because you know that he doesn't fight at anywhere near the speed you're trying to say he does?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup. Hand speed does not equate to fighting speed. You want proof? Just watch every single fight scene with Robocop and see how slow he moves. Want me to change my mind? Post a single, SINGLE, melee/h2h fight where Robocop shows decent speed.

Which leaves the Giant Elephant in the room... we don't see anybody taking a crap in the movies... does that mean they don't crap? Of course not. Sometimes things are shown, and other times they are not shown. Doesn't mean things are mutually inclusive when they are not shown. For example.. Superman was able to fly from the Indian Ocean all the way to save Lois. Yet, when he was very close to his mom already.. it took him minutes to get there. How does that make sense? Just because Wolverine doesn't impale everybody he fights with his claws.. do we go... oh he couldn't have against them or he would have. OR could it mean that he just didn't that time? Of course it can.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO... Do you even know what you're saying here?

He's reaching like Mr. Fantastic lol.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Which leaves the Giant Elephant in the room... we don't see anybody taking a crap in the movies... does that mean they don't crap? Of course not. Sometimes things are shown, and other times they are not shown. Doesn't mean things are mutually inclusive when they are not shown. For example.. Superman was able to fly from the Indian Ocean all the way to save Lois. Yet, when he was very close to his mom already.. it took him minutes to get there. How does that make sense? Just because Wolverine doesn't impale everybody he fights with his claws.. do we go... oh he couldn't have against them or he would have. OR could it mean that he just didn't that time? Of course it can.

Are you having trouble finding a clip of Robocop fighting at the speed you're claiming he can?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you having trouble finding a clip of Robocop fighting at the speed you're claiming he can?

Of course he does, as that clip doesn't exist.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Which leaves the Giant Elephant in the room... we don't see anybody taking a crap in the movies... does that mean they don't crap? Of course not. Sometimes things are shown, and other times they are not shown. Doesn't mean things are mutually inclusive when they are not shown. For example.. Superman was able to fly from the Indian Ocean all the way to save Lois. Yet, when he was very close to his mom already.. it took him minutes to get there. How does that make sense? Just because Wolverine doesn't impale everybody he fights with his claws.. do we go... oh he couldn't have against them or he would have. OR could it mean that he just didn't that time? Of course it can.

At least Wolverine and Superman are shown to stab opponents or fly/move at superspeeds every now and then during fight scenes. Not once has Robocop ever fought fast.

If we're to believe that he can really move that fast, what explanation do you have for him NEVER utilizing that speed in any of his melee fights?