Captain America runs the following growing gauntlet...

Started by TheLordofMurder3 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane's also the greatest fictional hero/combatant in cinematic history, so it's not really fair using him as the measuring stick.

Anyhow, back to the match. Marv, DD an Khan will be the hardest, Marv's crazy tough, but can be KO'd by much less than Cap shield-smashing his head, Khan's bones can be broken by Spock-level-strength; Cap is WAY beyond that and DD while tough and agile, will go down from a single well placed shield edge, if not two.

Kevin is very formidible as well; Marv only beat him with prep (and even that wasnt enough; Marv didnt get him until Kevin got careless)...

Kevin is fast enough to dodge close range gun fire while advancing on his foe afterall...

And if Kevin claws out Caps eyes like he did to Marv when they first fought, Cap would lose; dont forget that when Kevin shows up, it'll be with a fresh Bane, Kingpin, Punisher, and Marv backing him...

Originally posted by FrothByte
He beat up a whole elevator of SHIELD agents. Top end SHIELD agents probably. Most of these guys aren't that far off from a top end SHIELD agent. Marv probably gives him some trouble though, but with the shield he should be good

I disagree with this...

Not even a top end Shield Agent is punching through a pillar like Bane can or has anywhere near the damage soak of Punisher...

Marv or Kevin would clear that elevator as well...

I do agree that Marv can be a problem; Cap is superior to him one on one of course, but Marv with the others behind him could be trouble...imho.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I disagree with this...

Not even a top end Shield Agent is punching through a pillar like Bane can or has anywhere near the damage soak of Punisher...

Marv or Kevin would clear that elevator as well...

I do agree that Marv can be a problem; Cap is superior to him one on one of course, but Marv with the others behind him could be trouble...imho.

So you're saying you don't think a guy like Ward can't beat Baleman from TDKR?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you're saying you don't think a guy like Ward can't beat Baleman from TDKR?

Not a chance...

Well I guess we'll just have to disagree. Because I don't see Ward having much trouble with Baleman. Which is why I don't consider Bane any higher than a top end SHIELD agent.

Ward will have some trouble with TDKR Baleman's armor imo

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats not how it works...

The opponents are refresh to full at each round...

Otherwise the growing gauntlet makes no sense; Bane gets broken in round one and no more good for the other rounds if its as you suggest...

So no, Cap gets no rest or recovery time, but his opponents are restored to full at each round...

Cap wont need any rest or recovery as most of these people go down after 1 or 2 hits.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap wont need any rest or recovery as most of these people go down after 1 or 2 hits.

You really think its that simple?

He's going to start taking damage at some point and these arent just walking zombies that are going to just allow Cap to hit them...

Kevin for example (which I think will be a big problem) is arguably faster than Cap; afterall Kevin can dodge close range gun fire while advancing on his target...

And not only does Kevin have claws, but he has a history of going for the eyes...

If he scratches Caps eyes out, then what happens?

To clear this gauntlet, Cap has got to face a full strength Kevin 3 times and in the last round Khan and Daredevil will be there inaddition to a full strenth Bane, Kingpin, Punisher, and Marv...

Some of you are arguing that Cap clears "easily"...

I dont buy that at all and think you are not giving some of these characters proper credit...

Cap may clear, but I absolutely refused to believe that he does it easily...

This is Captain America...not the Hulk.

Because Cap can literally one-shot almost everyone here if he actually uses his full strength.

Forgive the fanboy ^

Ok, I forgive TheLordofMurder.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Ward will have some trouble with TDKR Baleman's armor imo

Joker was able to hurt Batman with that armor, and this was Baleman at his peak. Ward would destroy him. When you take Joker's fight into consideration then Bane beating Baleman isn't really all that impressive.

Marv and Khan are the biggest threat to Cap here but as long as he has his shield and his opponents are unarmed then he should clear with difficulty. Because at the end of the day no one here is strong enough to take him out.

@LoM Bro Cap is superhuman, in all stats pretty much. A full powered strike with his shield would kill anyone here save MAYBE Marv but he's out for sure. Civil War feats were insane.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Joker was able to hurt Batman with that armor, and this was Baleman at his peak. Ward would destroy him. When you take Joker's fight into consideration then Bane beating Baleman isn't really all that impressive.

I didn't say Ward can't beat Baleman. lol pretty much any decent street can beat Baleman. I only said he will have trouble with the armor.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I didn't say Ward can't beat Baleman. lol pretty much any decent street can beat Baleman. I only said he will have trouble with the armor.

Fair enough.

Seriously, after Civil War, guys like Bane, Kevin, Fisk and even Daredevil are complete nonfactors here. They get oneshotted, one after the other. And it isn't just Cap's striking power/strength that got better feats. The amount of heavy blunt force trauma he takes without any injury whatsoever is insane. Marv and Khan might hold out against a few more blows, but they don't have the strength to take him out.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Seriously, after Civil War, guys like Bane, Kevin, Fisk and even Daredevil are complete nonfactors here. They get oneshotted, one after the other. And it isn't just Cap's striking power/strength that got better feats. The amount of heavy blunt force trauma he takes without any injury whatsoever is insane. Marv and Khan might hold out against a few more blows, but they don't have the strength to take him out.

Wow...

Sounds like my opinion of Captain America is going to change significantly after Civil War; Cap must be uber as hell in it...

Well, not a major spoiler really (at least not in terms of plot), but

Spoiler:
there is an instance where Tony gets smashed by a bunch of cars coming crashing down on him, and it barely seems to have any real effect on the suit, where as Cap's fist hits later on (not even his shield) were denting and damaging IM's armour. If Cap going all out can do that to Tony's armour, these guys are going to get f***** up badly.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, not a major spoiler really (at least not in terms of plot), but
Spoiler:
there is an instance where Tony gets smashed by a bunch of cars coming crashing down on him, and it barely seems to have any real effect on the suit, where as Cap's fist hits later on (not even his shield) were denting and damaging IM's armour. If Cap going all out can do that to Tony's armour, these guys are going to get f***** up badly.

Imo that was PIS, since it has taken way worse than Cap's punches

Thing is Cap and Bucky really were portrayed as being absolutely uber in this. Like that helicopter feat, once you actually see the entire thing, is just ridiculous, and Bucky was again portrayed as his virtual equal. I mean

Spoiler:
it is not like they were tearing through it like tissue paper. Hell, Bucky lost his metal arm and nearly got killed in the fight, and Steve could have gone down right along with him if Bucky hadn't had enough left in him to distract Tony long enough for Steve to mount a quick offense and crush his arc reactor with his shield. Like I was one of the people who defended the notion that Cap's stats should stay the same, due to the nature of his powers, but even to me, there was a clear amp from AoU to Civil War.