Ranking the most powerful Force users: an analysis

Started by FreshestSlice8 pages

No, you obviously don't, because Sidious doesn't have the raw power required to rip apart planet surfaces from anything we've seen. Force Storms do not work that way, as you've been shown numerous times.

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btw the statement you were answering was that he hadn't "done anything to match" it.

No what I'm responding to is, "but he hasn't done anything to match tearing the surfaces off of worlds."

And neither does Palpatine, because he doesn't use raw power to do that. Nice dodge though.

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Palpatine harnesses the Force to channel Force storms. That contradicts the definition of "done". What a loser.

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Originally posted by The Ellimist
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Palpatine harnesses the Force to channel Force storms. That contradicts the definition of "done". What a loser.


He doesn't use his own power, which means it has nothing to do with raw power. Your devotion makes you weak.

After a few days, Ellimist is still desperately reaching with his recycled arguments. Are you nearing another triple digit posting day yet again?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He doesn't use his own power, which means it has nothing to do with raw power. Your devotion makes you weak.

A point for putting Yoda above Valkorion which I guess I did mention; Yoda is pretty far past his prime when he confronts Palpatine in RotS. My personal canon puts prime Yoda on RotJ Sidious's level as a Force user, and DE Sidous's level as a duelist.

Your lists are actually pretty neat, but I think my tiers are better

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t627079.html

Originally posted by The Ellimist
A point for putting Yoda above Valkorion which I guess I did mentiont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o1zXTnSfOA

Originally posted by The Ellimist
A point for putting Yoda above Valkorion which I guess I did mention; Yoda is pretty far past his prime when he confronts Palpatine in RotS. My personal canon puts prime Yoda on RotJ Sidious's level as a Force user, and DE Sidous's level as a duelist.

Are you implying that DE Sidious improved from RotS as a lightsaber duelist, or that Yoda got better as he aged?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Are you implying that DE Sidious improved from RotS as a lightsaber duelist, or that Yoda got better as he aged?

DE Sidious probably improved just from the sheer power increase; he spent 20 years studying the Force to the OT, during which some of his best feats in the EU occur, and then he explicitly grows even more powerful by DE, and puts himself in a clone body from his physical prime. Any rust that he may have accumulated, if we assume he just decided to forsake lightsaber dueling altogether, is likely compensated for given those improvements.

No, improved force abilities doesn't compensate for 20+ years of not using a lightsaber or even practicing, which is most likely what happened. Also putting Yoda over Valkorion is hysterical. 😂

Uh, you realise Sidious didn't practice with his lightsaber like at all upon becoming Chancellor?

Yup so 25+ years, my mistake.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Uh, you realise Sidious didn't practice with his lightsaber like at all upon becoming Chancellor?

TCW has called that into question, though. RotS being the first time he's held his lightsaber in years is retconned now.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yup so 25+ years, my mistake.
Not the point, rather than that despite over a decade of no practice he's still going toe-to-toe with Windu, Yoda, Maul etc. I doubt an extra few decades would have changed anything.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
TCW has called that into question, though. RotS being the first time he's held his lightsaber in years is retconned now.
Meh, RotS, post AotC - same difference.

The passage of Time means nothing to the immortal dovah.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yup so 25+ years, my mistake.