Originally posted by Genii96
Not a physical force?you are delusional,I don't have a problem with spiderman being a physical match,assuming it wasn't a piece of sh*t you pulled from your ass
No he is not a strong man per say. I am actually thinking about making a thread of spiderman vs ss strength feats.
And yes the thing I am pulling from my ass was written by stan lee, so complain with him 🙂 he is the one who actually pulled that one from his ass
Silver Surfer is not a strong man herald class. I think most people will know this by now he is an energy manipulator not a syrong man like Hulk or Herc
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Aquaman has took a scream said to destroy matter by Asmodel, Fell from orbit at speeds faster then thought, and took a blast that oneshotted Orion.
Now wait are you talking about post crisis Aquaman? Since if you are..you don't see a problem with Aquaman taking a blast that ONE SHOTS friggin Orion? Orion of all people..the guy who is essentially a class 100. I'm not saying the feat didn't happen, but I just wonder if you genuinely feel Aquaman is more durable then friggin Orion..
In durability comparison. Namor might have a better durability
Lol if you take the Orion feat as legit then how is Aquaman not leaps and bounds more durable then Namor?
I'm not sure but none of the stuff mentioned proves it to me. Stuff like how he handled Hyperion's HV compared to how Aquaman has taken stuff like Hellfire and Amazo's HV as well as Martian Vision makes me believe Aquaman has better durability to heat. Being able to take hits from a guy who oneshotted Superman and destroyed Hal makes me believe his blunt force trauma is comparable if not higher. Being able to take a continous blast from Starro that oneshotted Orion makes me believe his durability to energy based attacks are higher or atleast comparable even. As for now though comparable is nothing but speculation on my part I see Arthur as higher.
So you genuinely believe that Aquaman taking hits from someone who one shots Superman...is more or less an accurate depiction of Aquamans power levels? Keep in mind Superman can shrug off nukes. If Aquaman was at ground zero of a nuclear bomb what do you think would happen?
Originally posted by Surtur
Wait are you seriously suggesting that Spider-Man is physically stronger then Silver Surfer? As in..normal Spidey? Not some amped version..like with the Captain Universe powers? The normal Spidey who is like..class 10-20 at best?
I am suggesting that he is in the same strength class as spiderman and when amping he goes to the next strength class (namor) but that he is not a strong man like hulk, herc or thing.
I actually think that Ben will have better feats of strength than Surfer, maybe even spiderman could have more and better feats of strength, why? Because SS is not a strong man, but an energy manipulator.
Also he will be one of those cases where his invulnerability will be leaps and bounds ahead of his strength.
It is a theory of mine and if anyone will like to research it they are welcome to try it. I am currently in no position to research this.
I will like to defend spiderman, but my health does not allows me to expend that kind of energy on a serious debate, so I will just leave it as an IDEA or opinion of mine, but I think it will be interesting to research this further.
He does has few strength feats. But nothing like a strong man feats like herc , hulk etc
Originally posted by Surtur
Now wait are you talking about post crisis Aquaman? Since if you are..you don't see a problem with Aquaman taking a blast that ONE SHOTS friggin Orion? Orion of all people..the guy who is essentially a class 100. I'm not saying the feat didn't happen, but I just wonder if you genuinely feel Aquaman is more durable then friggin Orion..Lol if you take the Orion feat as legit then how is Aquaman not leaps and bounds more durable then Namor?
So you genuinely believe that Aquaman taking hits from someone who one shots Superman...is more or less an accurate depiction of Aquamans power levels? Keep in mind Superman can shrug off nukes. If Aquaman was at ground zero of a nuclear bomb what do you think would happen?
Yeah I do take it as a showing suggesting what Aquaman is capable of in terms of durability given you referenced both the Starro/Orion thing and Titus/Superman thing there tends to be a number of instances where he has done stuff similar.
I could go on to name more as well and fights with characters that also tend to wreck the League other then just Starro and Titus.
I feel like someone who believes Aquaman shouldnt be capable of instances like that only have a base knowledge on the character and really shouldn't be commenting on the characters capabilities.
I'd place him below Superman in terms of durability but that's because Superman has more stuff generally putting him above everyone else. Other then that Aquaman has his fair share of Class 100 feats. Orion has him beat in versatility given the astro harness and force
Originally posted by Surtur
Now wait are you talking about post crisis Aquaman? Since if you are..you don't see a problem with Aquaman taking a blast that ONE SHOTS friggin Orion? Orion of all people..the guy who is essentially a class 100. I'm not saying the feat didn't happen, but I just wonder if you genuinely feel Aquaman is more durable then friggin Orion..Lol if you take the Orion feat as legit then how is Aquaman not leaps and bounds more durable then Namor?
So you genuinely believe that Aquaman taking hits from someone who one shots Superman...is more or less an accurate depiction of Aquamans power levels? Keep in mind Superman can shrug off nukes. If Aquaman was at ground zero of a nuclear bomb what do you think would happen?
Aquaman is a class 100 though. Or did you mean something else?