Aayla Secura vs. Kazdan Paratus

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kazdan has 4 feats:

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[*]Injuring a distracted Galen
[*]Outpacing him with his legs
[*]Not getting blitzed in sabers
[*]Getting roflstompped in the Force
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3 of those Aayla can replicate, and running faster hardly warrants a victory in and of itself.

I'd say a speed advantage is a good start and given Marek couldn't outright ragdoll him ( he was electrocuted into submission before Galen gripped him ) and he was indicated to be more powerful then Rahm I'd say he also has a force advantage.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
"Part flesh and part machine, the renegade Jedi Master was proficient with the Force, and quick with it as well. Every blow the apprentice tried to make was instantly blocked by either end of the whirling pike. As fast as he lunged or retreated, the mechanical legs outpaced him. Paratus hopped around the dilapidated chamber like a deranged jumping spider."

Seemed impressive enough to me. Plus Paratus should have a Force edge tbh.

Kazdan on both rounds.

Originally posted by Syndicate
They are junk parts Kazdan was holding together and directing with his will.

No they are just droids. The novel describes them in detail and never mentions that they were animated by the Force.

Then why would Vader say he didn't expect Galen to survive against Kazdan when he did against Rahm. Unless you're suggesting Vader lied to mess with Galen, he simply grew in power enough to defeat Kazdan as easily as he did. Feel free to have your opinion but I hold the latter.

Hmm Vader didn't expect him to survive, yet Galen wtfstomped him. I guess he might not have been honest...

Originally posted by Syndicate
I'd say a speed advantage is a good start and given Marek couldn't outright ragdoll him ( he was electrocuted into submission before Galen gripped him ) and he was indicated to be more powerful then Rahm I'd say he also has a force advantage.

Galen could've one shotted him with Lightning, only because he chose to use lightning first and TK second doesn't mean he couldn't have ragdolled him outright, that's just retarded.

And no, Paratus was never said to be more powerful than Kota by an objective source.

In game they are junk golems animated by the Force, is this anywhere contradicted by the text?

This is their whole descrition:

From it stepped a humanoid machine made from the junked droid parts he had expected to find on his journey.

The braincase of an FX-8 medical droid was bolted onto a body cobbled together from several types of outdated protocol models. Its limbs appeared to come from a mixture of EV and B1 battle droids, tipped with instruments and tools that wouldn't looked out of place in a workshop. Its sole functioning photoreceptor glared a bright, furious yellow. Its lurching gait achieved an appreciable speed before he sliced its head off.

A second patchwork droid emerged from a different rubbish pile, followed by a third. The sound of more droid golems stirring line from elsewhere in the Temple. The apprentice fought them with practiced ease. He had been dueling PROXY all his life; knew the weaknesses and strengths of droids, even one capable, by a clever use of repulsor technologies and a specially adapted antique training lightsaber, of imitating a Jedi. Ones such as these, with barely a matching part among them, were child's play.

If they were glued together and animated by the Force, such as this Galen would've taken note of it:

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Novels are stupid, and they're no more canon then the games are.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
In game they are junk golems animated by the Force, is this anywhere contradicted by the text?

Unless Disney has changed the levels of canon.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
You just listed Kazdan's only two appearances... What the flying **** are we supposed to judge him off of then?

Marek legitimately was stronger then Vader back then, and he also beat Kazdan's ass with little effort.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
No they are just droids. The novel describes them in detail and never mentions that they were animated by the Force.

Hmm Vader didn't expect him to survive, yet Galen wtfstomped him. I guess he might not have been honest...

Galen could've one shotted him with Lightning, only because he chose to use lightning first and TK second doesn't mean he couldn't have ragdolled him outright, that's just retarded.

And no, Paratus was never said to be more powerful than Kota by an objective source.

Was going to address this but Beni seems to have done so already.

Or Vader was expressing his legitimate thoughts and Galen simply improved enough to accomplish the performance he did against Kazdan.

Saying that using lightning on someone that has instantly killed groups of stormtroopers wearing insulated armor wouldn't affect somebodies ability to defend against TK is retarded imo.

He was suggested to be by Vader.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
This is their whole descrition:

From it stepped a humanoid machine made from the junked droid parts he had expected to find on his journey.

The braincase of an FX-8 medical droid was bolted onto a body cobbled together from several types of outdated protocol models. Its limbs appeared to come from a mixture of EV and B1 battle droids, tipped with instruments and tools that wouldn't looked out of place in a workshop. Its sole functioning photoreceptor glared a bright, furious yellow. Its lurching gait achieved an appreciable speed before he sliced its head off.

A second patchwork droid emerged from a different rubbish pile, followed by a third. The sound of more droid golems stirring line from elsewhere in the Temple. The apprentice fought them with practiced ease. He had been dueling PROXY all his life; knew the weaknesses and strengths of droids, even one capable, by a clever use of repulsor technologies and a specially adapted antique training lightsaber, of imitating a Jedi. Ones such as these, with barely a matching part among them, were child's play.

If they were glued together and animated by the Force, such as this Galen would've taken note of it:

Why would game Galen have noted it?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Or Vader was expressing his legitimate thoughts and Galen simply improved enough to accomplish the performance he did against Kazdan.

Prove it. Vader is a lying **** and Galen struggeled against Kota yet roflstompped Kazdan. Not even Luke has that kind of learning curve...

Saying that using lightning on someone that has instantly killed groups of stormtroopers wearing insulated armor wouldn't affect somebodies ability to defend against TK is retarded imo.

Except that's not what I said. You say Galen couldn't flat out ragdoll Paratus because he chose not to. That's something Ahsoka wankers say. I guess Sidious can't ragdoll Agen and Fisto because he chose to kill them in lightsaber combat...

He was suggested to be by Vader.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Why would game Galen have noted it?

Kek. Galen goes in detail what parts of the junk droid he recognises but doesn't give a shit it's animated by the Force?

Going to B&N. I'll respond in a few hours.

This isn't Twitter. Feel free to just respond later.

As I recall just before he fights Paratus, he fights something resembling that image.

That was Paratus himself in a droid.

A huge junk golem smashed through a nearby wall, servomotors growling, brandishing two of the biggest vibro-axes he had ever seen, one in each hand. It took two steps toward him and blinked its enormous photoreceptors in barely restrained hostility.

I don't think droids animated by the Force need servomotors 😕

Yeah just read it, your probably right. Paratus still wins though. ✅

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Paratus still wins though. ✅

Lawls. Nah but really, Kazdan outpaces her and Aayla overextends. 🙂