Aayla Secura vs. Kazdan Paratus

Originally posted by Syndicate
"He builds a replica of the Jedi Temple from debris gathered from an abandoned industrial quarter of Raxus Prime and he holds council sessions there with "Jedi Masters" fashioned from debris and guarded by an army of [b]ANIMATED junk droid sentries also constructed for junk."

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Where does it say by the Force?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

Where does it say by the Force?

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Nice rape Emp. 🙂

Originally posted by Emperordmb
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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
That was Paratus himself in a droid.

A huge junk golem smashed through a nearby wall, servomotors growling, brandishing two of the biggest vibro-axes he had ever seen, one in each hand. It took two steps toward him and blinked its enormous photoreceptors in barely restrained hostility.

I don't think droids animated by the Force need servomotors 😕

That also doesn't say it runs on the Force, just that Paratus used it to strengthen it.

Some of the droids could very well have both tbh. So what you have is two or three sources saying they were force imbued, and once source not mentioning it but not contradicting it either.

I'd say it's substantiated in enough sources and not directly contradicted by any source to be legit, so you saying its invalid because servomotors just seems like you grasping at straws tbh

^ Tbh.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Some of the droids could very well have both tbh. So what you have is two or three sources saying they were force imbued, and once source not mentioning it but not contradicting it either.

I'd say it's substantiated in enough sources and not directly contradicted by any source to be legit, so you saying its invalid because servomotors just seems like you grasping at straws tbh

It is contradected by the book when it goes into detail of their description and no Force is mentioned.

Absence of proof is not proof of absence Zoltan, especially when you have two other sources substantiating it.

The book not mentioning it is very shaky ground to dismiss evidence provided in multiple sources over.

lel that would only work if there is no description at all...

Not like Force imbuding droids is a combative showing. You could say Paratus beats Kenobi by the same principle...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That also doesn't say it runs on the Force, just that Paratus used it to strengthen it.

It says force imbued and animated. Not strengthened though they likely were as well.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It is contradected by the book when it goes into detail of their description and no Force is mentioned.

So it's contradicted because Galen doesn't note it? I guess they're not force imbued either even though that's mentioned in another source. I mean Galen didn't mention it in his monologue so it couldn't be.

No, it just says imbued in one source and that they are animated in another. Whereas we know how they're animated.

Originally posted by Syndicate
So it's contradicted because Galen doesn't note it? I guess they're not force imbued either even though that's mentioned in another source. I mean Galen didn't mention it in his monologue so it couldn't be.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
lel that would only work if there is no description at all...

Not like Force imbuding droids is a combative showing. You could say Paratus beats Kenobi by the same principle...

It's a demonstration of his capabilities as a force user that he was able to animate possibly thousands of them at once.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No, it just says imbued in one source and that they are animated in another. Whereas we know how they're animated.

Yep. They're stated to be force imbued and animated which suggests they're being animated by the Force Kazdan is imbuing them with.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It's a demonstration of his capabilities as a force user that he was able to animate possibly thousands of them at once.

Even if it'd be legit so what? Quantify it. You say it's definitely enough to beat Aayla, where does it stop? Luminara? Fisto? Kenobi? Zonakin?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Exactly.

I honestly don't know what to say. You either don't know the definition of contradicted or you're acting ignorant for no apparent reason.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Even if it'd be legit so what? Quantify it. You say it's definitely enough to beat Aayla, where does it stop? Luminara? Fisto? Kenobi? Zonakin?

Given he's suggested to be more powerful then Rahm and the feats of rebuilding the Jedi Temple and animating thousands of droids I'd say he's pretty up there as a force user.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I honestly don't know what to say. You either don't know the definition of contradicted or you're acting ignorant for no apparent reason.

I could say the same. Force animated droids are not exactly common. It seems like a thing someone would mention when describing something in detail. Not to mention he then went ahead and called them childs play:

The apprentice fought them with practiced ease. He had been dueling PROXY all his life; knew the weaknesses and strengths of droids, even one capable, by a clever use of repulsor technologies and a specially adapted antique training lightsaber, of imitating a Jedi. Ones such as these, with barely a matching part among them, were child's play.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Given he's suggested to be more powerful then Rahm and the feats of rebuilding the Jedi Temple and animating thousands of droids I'd say he's pretty up there as a force user.

I love your repeating arguments. Paratus was never said to be more powerful than Kota by an objective source. For him to be more powerful than Kota Galen would have to posses a learning curve that shits on Luke's. Seems far fetched.

Kek nowhere was it stated he rebuilt the Temple with the Force. His obvious love for tech suggest otherwise...