The Architect.... The Great Trickster.

HEY???

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Originally posted by Tevesh
yes. actually a friend of mine suggested that to me. i dismissed it thinking that he'd be way to old. besides, wasn't he supposed to start zion? so why would he be here.

I just saw the first movie, and Morpheus says that the year is closer to 2199. AI was created in the early part of the 21th century. So even if we take a 200 year time span, it's still only 200/6 = about 33.33 years on average. now that's pretty feasable. Maybe we'll find out what Saraph is all about in the next movie.
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33 years.... that was Jesus age. So every 33 years the one died and resurrect agin and again. But EVERY 33 years.

why would a female version be distracting to the purpose?

Neo its been the One since the begining. Thats why the architect knew his reactions/emotions

Well Turin she will be a distraction. Females are like a lightening rod or a magnet for the male. He will be distracted by her and in some cases enslaved by her simply because of sex. The One who is female and a hottie too? Disaster. The A.I. wants someone to carry out its "directives" without the added baggage of sexuality, or an overabundance of sexual power. Neo doesn't have that. Therefore he is the perfect tool for what the A.I. wants. Females are not free because they have the added baggage of having babies and caring for them and the added baggage of having males running after her. Look at Niobe. Two guys basically fighting over her.

true, but the architect talks about each "the one" has controls on them that caused them to choose the door to reboot. in Neos case it was trinity, which was a bad chose by the architect, but with a woman she would love it when guys fight over her (the all do, lol) so she would want to preserve and reboot the matrix, but she also wouldnt want to share her man in the rebuilding of zion, so maybe it would be a bad idea to have a woman "one".

Actually women don't really like it when guys fight over them. It's animalistic and very counterproductive. Especially if the woman don't like either man. I had that situation once and I left both of them. HA! But anyway, a really beautiful woman as THE ONE would be counterproductive. Men are a little more free in their living and thinking by nature.

Why do people keep saying neo has been the one all of the previous times. There is absolutely no evidence to go with that. I know the argument the screens show his prior reactions. I think the screens are a tangible expression of how the arch. thinks. He considers all of the possiblites. The screens are just there for the audience and neo to see that he "knows" all of neos different responses.

I agree with you mac, nicely put.

mauls woman, i guess in the least it makes you feel wanted when dudes fight over you, and i have known some that really enjoyed it. you must be a better person then most women, lol. i keep that attitude i'll never get past the first date with any one, lol. i get what you mean though about her being a distraction.

Lol!!! Turn, a perspective view of sex and power. A position of power for a woman is good. But she can't be extraordinarily beautiful or better yet...overly sexy. That is a major distraction. If she is a common looking person, or even abit homely or better yet older or old, would be better because there will be no consentration on her sexuality.

Anyway, to answer Mac, I've never said that Neo was THE ONE all the time and in all the other incarnations. He is The One now. The others are long dead.

MW does not speak for all women some of whom LOVE being fought over.

Another thing... it would be better for the One to be a man because the Architect's grilling of The One would have put many many obstacles in the path of a female The One. Most likely she would have a lover like Neo does, but there is the possibility that she would have children. BIG PROBLEM. She would NOT want to see her children die. It would be much much harder for a female THE ONE.

yes but how does rebooting the matrix give him the chance to remake zion

It doesn't. That is something he is given the chance to do seperately. But obviously he cannot select new human subjects from the Matrix for Zion if they are all dead, can he?

The Architect told Neo that he will have to choose 23 humans to repopulate Zion. While that is happening the Matrix would jettison dead and dying humans still in their pods and reduce them to liquid food for the still healthy ones. The system would be backed up and more upgraded programs and humans will be installed per the A.I.'s instructions. Of course Neo does not fully realize this yet and the Architect gave him only half truths.

There is no 'of course' about it.

There is. But Neo hostility toward the Architect is understandable and real enough. He was given a "choice" between Trinity's life and the lives of all of Zion. He understands that he is a very important piece in the equation, but he is not fully aware of the entirety of his "importance". So, of course, he is unaware.

No, there is NOT an 'of course'. Once again, that is arrogant assumption. You do not KNOW it. You cannot PROVE it. You just THINK it. So that is not 'of course'.

It is an "of course" in an intellectual way. Doesn't have to be the true outcome of the film. But the joy of "expanded universe" assumptions until we are told otherwise. Majority of the information will not be told us in the films anyway so it is lots of fun in these intellectual leaps. 😄

Plus the Wachowski Brothers may have something up their sleeves for REVOLUTIONS that will completely blow our minds and that is the best of all.

well personally i think it is definitely a correct assumption that neo does not know everything about the matrix or what is going to happen in the matrix, so of course does aply. if he did know everything why would he even be bothering going about this game that the architect has set in place to control "the one".