Originally posted by NewGuy01That's because while SSR Goku was fighting Beerus, he learned(on the fly) how to deliver said punches without generating those universe-threatening shockwaves.
Also, ever since SSR, none of Goku's fights have been universe-threatening at all.
As has always been the case with DB: the amount of collateral damage caused by a given character is not a full-proof means through which to quantify them.
SSB>SSR.
Originally posted by Placidity
Consider:SSB got shot by a little shit laser and was done.
False: in DBS (which did override the movies as canon) Goku was already completely powered down and in base form when he got shot by the laser.
Being said that, it is:
SSB KKx10 >>> SSB KK > SSB U6 (post 3 years in ROSAT) > SSB (FnF) > SSG.
Mismatch against SSG.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's because while SSR Goku was fighting Beerus, he learned(on the fly) how to deliver said punches without generating those universe-threatening shockwaves.As has always been the case with DB: the amount of collateral damage caused by a given character is not a full-proof means through which to quantify them.
SSB>SSR.
This. Also, nothing pointed to Goku losing SSR power AFTER his fight against Beerus. If something was actually said about him losing this power up (which was said that was still inside of Goku when he went Super Saiyan), please point me in that direction.
Originally posted by Galan007See, GOKU learned to null the universe destroying punches fighting Beerus. If SSR Goku is weak, and Beerus was lowered to such a low level why doesn't any of the other fights have the same power output though? Like that's one thing I don't get with ssb > ssr. Nobody else has shown Gokus ability to learn that fast. And fighting someone else you'd think would involve having to learn how to null it again.
That's because while SSR Goku was fighting Beerus, he learned(on the fly) how to deliver said punches without generating those universe-threatening shockwaves.As has always been the case with DB: the amount of collateral damage caused by a given character is not a full-proof means through which to quantify them.
SSB>SSR.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's because while SSR Goku was fighting Beerus, he learned(on the fly) how to deliver said punches without generating those universe-threatening shockwaves.As has always been the case with DB: the amount of collateral damage caused by a given character is not a full-proof means through which to quantify them.
SSB>SSR.
Doesn't explain why eveyone else Goku fights isn't sending out shockwaves, like Freeza or Hit.
A more likely answer is that the writers or Toriyama didn't think that universe shockwave thing through. Pretty safe to write it off as PIS, given it's never remotely mentioned again.
Originally posted by cdtm😛 don't copy what I said in different words. Lol
Doesn't explain why eveyone else Goku fights isn't sending out shockwaves, like Freeza or Hit.A more likely answer is that the writers or Toriyama didn't think that universe shockwave thing through. Pretty safe to write it off as PIS, given it's never remotely mentioned again.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
There's also the fact that the idea that SSR Goku was <<< 10% Beerus is a hard pill to swallow. Basically SSJ2 Vegeta level at this point.
Not true.
Nothing until now contradicts the 6-10-15 power-chain: who indeed said that the correlation between those numbers has to be linear?
If you consider them to be in a logarithmic scale, for example, everything fits in it perfectly and, in this way, it also is easier to see how it was possible to jump from Solar System range (Ssj3 tier Boo saga characters) to Universal tier or close to it (SSG and the Gods).