SSR vs SSB

Originally posted by carver9
All of this preaching and everyone still knows that Goku moved through time stop. You can debate against it for days, you're convincing no one.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't understand why you post something that is probably not legit. Where did Akira say this?

With the recent episode, I'm conceding this, btw.

The idea that SSJG Goku was only ~5% of Beerus' power max is a hard pill to swallow, though.

Ssbstomps cause ssr it Lacks in strength but strong in ki cause thats why ssr goku black was able to beat ssb vegeta but if ssr is stronger ssb, but Kaioken combined with ssb with kaioken curbstomp ssr

R for Red, not Rose.

My thoughts on this:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=635816&highlight=userid%3A114156

Once it is confirmed I will be dropping by Carver's house to force feed him his own shit.

It's not that you believe one way or the other - no one knows for sure at this point, its the fact you are too arrogant to even have a reasonable discussion.

Well, in the manga, the relationship between SSG and SSB is confirmed. In the anime it's less clear, like a lot of things.

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In the anime it's clearly stated multiple times that SSB > SSG, tho.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, in the manga, the relationship between SSG and SSB is confirmed. .

Whats the relationship in the manga? SSR > SSB or the other way?

In the manga, SSB is stronger, but burns out quickly. SSR isn't as powerful, but it's far more efficient.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
In the manga, SSB is stronger, but burns out quickly. SSR isn't as powerful, but it's far more efficient.

Interesting.

I think the real question is - how much stronger?

Because I could say the same about Base vs Super Saiyan 1. Yes, Base is more "efficient", but SSJ1 is 50x stronger. So it really wouldn't be a choice in this example - either your opponent is at SSJ1 level, and you MUST transform to stand a chance. OR, if your opponent is much weaker than SSJ1, then you would STILL transform, because you can end it quite quickly.

The only way that it would be rational to choose between using SSR and SSB is if it will be a long fight, AND the difference between the SSB/SSR is not that much - definitely not close to 2x (think SSJ2 Gohan v SSJ1 Gohan).

It's hard to say exactly, but definitely nowhere in the ballpark of 50x. We know from the U6 tournament that SSB is in the ballpark of a ~10x multiplier on top of (post-Whis) SSJ. SSR is somewhere in between.

We do know is that a SSR has no chance of beating a SSB in a straight-up contest, though.